Jim,
   
  if you can 
  afford them the pukka ('genuine' to non-UK readers) Xilinx and Altera boards 
  are probably good.
  When I was 
  buying I couldn't afford the cheapest Xilinx board (minus the FPGA itself is 
  3x the cost of the 
  boards I use at 
  the moment) and considering Xilinx makes them both you think they could 
  bundle them?
  Also the Xilinx 
  boards are for Virtex and Virtex-E devices not the Spartan II and II-E which I 
  would expect
  are the defacto 
  'intro to FPGA programming chips'. I wouldn't suggest any 'newbies' spending 
  more than
  $200 (USD) on a 
  development board before they find out whether they actually like hardware 
  programming.
  A FPGA board is 
  for life not just for Christmas. ;-)
   
  I have no 
  experience with the Alteras yet so can't comment on them but funds permitting 
  will be buying 
  Xilinx, 
  Xess 
  and Altera boards next year.
   
  Paul
  
    
    Look at the developer's kit from Altera.
    The Altera Excalibur NIOS Kit has just about everyting you 
    need to get started for under $1000.
    Xilinx is another place to look for developer 
    kits.
     
    P.S. I am inexperienced at this myself. But I am looking 
    around myself. These were the two
    vendors that seem to me to have the best products (for my 
    requiements).
     
    Some of the other old hatters here might have better 
    advice.
    I am an old-timmer looking for a new hat.
     
     
    Jim Dempsey
     
    
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      Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 2:07 
      PM
      Subject: [oc] FPGA/ASIC Design 
      Kits
      
      Sorry Guys I'm new to this but I want to get 
      on track as fast as possible.
      what kind of Kits would you use for trying 
      and testing your designs for ASIC or FPGA, ofcourse you don't go to the 
      foundry for each new idea ?
      Paul 
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