From: Telecom Tom (tom.scott@veda-home.com)
Date: Tue Dec 14 1999 - 01:14:14 CET
On Mon 13 Dec 1999 winsor wrote:
> BTW *grin* is Dave at the LRP a billionaire too, or the authors of any
> of the other linux or BSD based "floppy routers" out there???
Anyone who can implement MPLS switching/routing on Linux or BSD will
be considered, rightfully so, a wizard in the telecom industry. Will
he/she be a billionaire? Sure why not. Bill Gates did it and all he
had going for him was DOS and Windows. QED
But seriously, MPLS will be *the* thing in getting packets around the
Internet in the very near future. It will do QoS, differentiated
services, and multimedia for maybe 1% of what it would cost in the
ATM-based circuit-switched networks run by the phone companies.
Look at the URLs I listed below.
--Ciao, TT
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Tom Nelson Scott tom.scott@veda-home.com
The Veda Home Company Bowling Green, Ohio USA
"In IP We Trust" "E Pluribus Unix"
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-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: Mulinux features
Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 17:15:24 -0600
From: winsor <winsor@wi.net>
Reply-To: mulinux@sunsite.auc.dk
To: mulinux@sunsite.auc.dk
References: <38553F7E.77C3EF9E@veda-home.com>
Exactly what is a router???8^P
Yes mulinux will route packets from one network interface to another,
and yes it does use IP_Masq........on several occasions I've used
muLinux as a router in leiu of a "LRP" style floppy router.....routing
both LAN connected machines(in home users) as well as a four port PPP
server er uh terminal er uh gateway er uh ISP(another home-brewed by
me
router of sorts)..to the external network using IP_Masq......just to
see
how it worked......and it did work well.(although I didn't attempt to
get diald running under muLinux as this was only a test).
The only "real" question concerns security.....and that's another
issue
entirely............
Can it be done?.....yes muLinux will route packets
Should it be done?........well*grin* I don't know, you decide
BTW *grin* is Dave at the LRP a billionaire too, or the authors of any
of the other linux or BSD based "floppy routers" out there???
Good Luck
signed
winsor
Telecom Tom wrote:
>
> Michele et al.,
>
> In addition to the FTP URL at UW-Madison, you may also want to browse:
> http://www.ietf.org/html.charters/mpls-charter.html
> http://www.juniper.net/techcenter/techpapers/
>
> Also, see "Switching In IP Networks" by B. Davie, P. Doolan and Y.
> Rekhter (1998, Morgan Kaufmann).
>
> There are several issues we should be aware of. First, if muLinux has
> a potential as a router (similar to the Linux Router Project), then
> MPLS may be a winning application that will make *everyone* want to
> use it. You will become a billionaire and will no longer be concerned
> about how to pay your next month's rent. Etc.
>
> Second, I'm not sure how to classify MPLS. The Juniper papers seem to
> lean in the direction of routing as opposed to switching. But whatever
> it is, can muLinux do it?
>
> Third, does one need IP packets with MPLS? It appears not. But again
> the only question of interest is, Can muLinux do it?
>
> Fourth, where is the MPLS-enhanced muLinux router/switch located? Will
> it be used only in the large commercial LAN/WAN/VPN or can residential
> customers benefit from it? Will it be used by transit ISPs such as ATT
> and MCI? I don't know. Maybe we can figure it out here on the list.
>
> Etc.
>
> BTW "In IPv6 We Trust" certainly is true. However it requires two
> extra keystrokes, so in the interest of energy conservation I shall
> leave it as is. Furthermore, IPv6 will someday be the default IP and
> the point will be moot.
>
> --Ciao, TT
> ------------------------------------------------
> Tom Nelson Scott tom.scott@veda-home.com
> The Veda Home Company Bowling Green, Ohio USA
> "In IP We Trust" "E Pluribus Unix"
> ------------------------------------------------
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: Mulinux features
> Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 14:42:50 +0000
> From: Michele Andreoli <m.andreoli@tin.it>
> Reply-To: mulinux@sunsite.auc.dk
> To: mulinux@sunsite.auc.dk
> References: <001501bf4489$f35b04a0$0200000a@kludge.demon.co.uk>
> <38539615.10E032C7@veda-home.com>
>
> On Sun, Dec 12, 1999 at 07:33:25AM -0500, Telecom Tom nicely wrote:
> >
> > Here's an implementation of MPLS for Linux:
> > ftp://nero.doit.wisc.edu/pub/mpls/
> >
> > Will muLinux support it?
> >
>
> I don't know MPLS and i'll take a look soon.
>
> > - ------------------------------------------------
> > "In IP We Trust"
> > ------------------------------------------------
> :-) ^^^^^^^^ Suggested changes: "In IPv6 We Trust (better)"
>
> Michele
>
> --
> I'd like to conclude with a positive statement, but I can't
> remember any. Would two negative ones do? -- Woody Allen
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