From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 1 14:22:53 2003 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 1 Feb 2003 14:22:53 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h11MMnTk032509; Sat, 1 Feb 2003 14:22:49 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h11MMinO014734 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Sat, 1 Feb 2003 14:22:45 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with SMTP id h11MJY09012704; Sat, 1 Feb 2003 14:19:35 -0800 Received: from mxu7.u.washington.edu (mxu7.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.165]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h11MGpCK073666 for ; Sat, 1 Feb 2003 14:16:51 -0800 Received: from t0c.de ([217.172.180.177]) by mxu7.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h11MGhHU018358 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 1 Feb 2003 14:16:45 -0800 Received: from p50853430.dip.t-dialin.net (p50853430.dip.t-dialin.net [80.133.52.48]) by t0c.de (8.11.3/8.11.3/SuSE Linux 8.11.1-0.5) with ESMTP id h11MGb621408 for ; Sat, 1 Feb 2003 23:16:38 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 23:16:36 +0100 (CET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Daniel Albuschat To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: PGP as attachment - how? In-Reply-To: <0301311553250.0@somehost.domainz.com> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: daniel@station X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Fri, 31 Jan 2003, Erik Parker wrote: > > > That is the best way I've found.. I use: > > :0 fw > * ^Content-Type: multipart/encrypted > | formail -i "Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII" > ## > > :0 fw > * ^Content-Type: Application/PGP > | formail -i "Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII" > ## > > > ## to handle multipart crapola from stuff > :0 fw > * ^Content-Type: application/pgp-signature > | formail -i "Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII" > ## > > > As for sending.. I use PinePG.. and it works fine for sending and recieving. I > send signature and messages in body. I'm not sure where you found that it is > standard to send them as an attachment.. but the only people I Email with GPG > that use attachments, are Mutt users. All the winlusers, and unix people i > send back and forth with, mostly in the security industry, use inline. Mh.. that puts the pgp sig inline, but the BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE block is missing that way and so pinepg does not work. Is there probably a way, I can get as nice pgp signed messages from mutt users as these I get from other pine users? (i mean the pinepgp preprocessed messages with invoked gpg) cu, Daniel -- eat(this); // delicious suicide From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 1 14:50:16 2003 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 1 Feb 2003 14:50:16 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h11MoFTk000511; Sat, 1 Feb 2003 14:50:15 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h11MoBWb019708 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Sat, 1 Feb 2003 14:50:11 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with SMTP id h11Mlcjm004158; Sat, 1 Feb 2003 14:47:39 -0800 Received: from mxu5.u.washington.edu (mxu5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.164]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h11MjMCK019130 for ; Sat, 1 Feb 2003 14:45:22 -0800 Received: from rebecca.tiscali.nl (rebecca.tiscali.nl [195.241.76.181]) by mxu5.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h11MjKZ7000360 for ; Sat, 1 Feb 2003 14:45:20 -0800 Received: from shell.tiscali.nl (shell.tiscali.nl [195.241.77.35]) by rebecca.tiscali.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBF3D440AE0 for ; Sat, 1 Feb 2003 23:45:19 +0100 (MET) Received: from localhost (cohenb@localhost) by shell.tiscali.nl (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA22737 for ; Sat, 1 Feb 2003 23:45:19 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 23:45:19 +0100 (MET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Bruce Cohen To: Pine Discussion Forum MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: shell.tiscali.nl: cohenb owned process doing -bs X-X-Sender: X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XXIIIIII, Probability=26%, Report="MSG_ID_ADDED_BY_MTA_3, RCVD_IN_MULTIHOP_DSBL, RCVD_IN_UNCONFIRMED_DSBL, SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE, SPAM_PHRASE_01_02, SUBJ_MISSING, USER_AGENT_PINE, X_AUTH_WARNING" X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=III, Probability=3%, Report="SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, SUBJ_MISSING, USER_AGENT_PINE, X_AUTH_WARNING" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Sorry for this slightly off-subject post. I seem to have been expunged from the mailing list for some time now - about six weeks or so ago is my guess. I have written several messages with no response to pine-info-owner and finally just tried to post to the list which confirmed that I no longer had a subscription. Obviously I have resubscribed. Does anyone know why I was removed, and am I the only one to whom this has happened? Thanks, Bruce Cohen -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 1 16:46:30 2003 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 1 Feb 2003 16:46:30 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h120kTTk002628; Sat, 1 Feb 2003 16:46:29 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h120kKnO017585 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Sat, 1 Feb 2003 16:46:21 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with SMTP id h120hNDb083796; Sat, 1 Feb 2003 16:43:23 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.132]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h120fOCK051014 for ; Sat, 1 Feb 2003 16:41:24 -0800 Received: from sw59-237-205.adsl.seed.net.tw (sw59-237-205.adsl.seed.net.tw [61.59.237.205]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h120fLfV030282 for ; Sat, 1 Feb 2003 16:41:22 -0800 Received: from misty.greshko.com by misty.greshko.com with ESMTP; Sun, 2 Feb 2003 08:41:19 +0800 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 08:41:19 +0800 (CST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Ed Greshko To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Bruce Cohen X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XIIIII, Probability=15%, Report="IN_REP_TO, MSG_ID_ADDED_BY_MTA_3, RCVD_IN_MULTIHOP_DSBL, RCVD_IN_UNCONFIRMED_DSBL, REFERENCES, SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, USER_AGENT_PINE" On Sat, 1 Feb 2003, Bruce Cohen wrote: > Does anyone know why I was removed, and am I the only one to whom this has > happened? Maybe for not putting in a "Subject" in your message? :-) :-) Chances are it was an accident. Chances are no one knows why. Maybe you were the only one....and maybe not. But, you have resubscribed. So, everything is fine. Yes? Ed From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 1 17:40:12 2003 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 1 Feb 2003 17:40:11 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h121eBTk003649; Sat, 1 Feb 2003 17:40:11 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h121e7nO018558 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Sat, 1 Feb 2003 17:40:07 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with SMTP id h121bS09012622; Sat, 1 Feb 2003 17:37:28 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.133]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h121ZhCK019162 for ; Sat, 1 Feb 2003 17:35:43 -0800 Received: from fe3.cox-internet.com (cdm-66-2-40-tyrd.cox-internet.com [66.76.2.40] (may be forged)) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h121Zekp024317 for ; Sat, 1 Feb 2003 17:35:41 -0800 Received: from lfs ([66.233.81.123]) by fe3.cox-internet.com (InterMail vK.4.04.00.00 201-232-137 license 9a2f9096933fa391a6c2fc942f8b01bd) with ESMTP id <20030202013540.RCBD17974.fe3@lfs> for ; Sat, 1 Feb 2003 19:35:40 -0600 Message-Id: <200302011928.09067.alwagner@tcac.net> Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 19:28:08 +0000 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Albert Wagner To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: can't specify email account user name Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XIIIIII, Probability=16%, Report="DATE_IN_PAST_06_12, MAY_BE_FORGED, SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, __EVITE_CTYPE" My "From" header that pine builds: From: Albert Wagner contains my login "root" rather than my email account user name=20 "alwagner". I can find no place in the pine config where my user=20 name can be entered. What am I missing? -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 1 17:46:30 2003 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 1 Feb 2003 17:46:30 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h121kTTk003813; Sat, 1 Feb 2003 17:46:29 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h121kQWb023253 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Sat, 1 Feb 2003 17:46:26 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with SMTP id h121i609005744; Sat, 1 Feb 2003 17:44:06 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h121gNCK019118 for ; Sat, 1 Feb 2003 17:42:23 -0800 Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h121gLQY020247 for ; Sat, 1 Feb 2003 17:42:21 -0800 Received: from goedel2.math.washington.edu (goedel2.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.11]) by euler.math.washington.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h121gKq470397; Sat, 1 Feb 2003 17:42:20 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 17:42:06 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Eduardo Chappa To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: can't specify email account user name In-Reply-To: <200302011928.09067.alwagner@tcac.net> References: <200302011928.09067.alwagner@tcac.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Albert Wagner X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN *** Albert Wagner (alwagner@tcac.net) wrote in the pine-info list today: :) My "From" header that pine builds: :) :) From: Albert Wagner :) :) contains my login "root" rather than my email account user name :) "alwagner". I can find no place in the pine config where my user :) name can be entered. What am I missing? Press M S C and set up Customized-Hdrs= From: "Albert Wagner" You can also change the From header using a Role (press M S R R to set up one). The latest version of Pine (4.53) also has a feature called "disable-sender" which you may want to enable too. -- Eduardo http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/ From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 1 17:55:56 2003 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 1 Feb 2003 17:55:56 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h121ttTk004013; Sat, 1 Feb 2003 17:55:55 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h121tlnO018860 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Sat, 1 Feb 2003 17:55:47 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with SMTP id h121rJ09026452; Sat, 1 Feb 2003 17:53:19 -0800 Received: from mxu5.u.washington.edu (mxu5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.164]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h121pVCK062710 for ; Sat, 1 Feb 2003 17:51:31 -0800 Received: from mailman.packetdesign.com (dns.packetdesign.com [65.192.41.10]) by mxu5.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h121pTZ8021698 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 1 Feb 2003 17:51:30 -0800 Received: from packetdesign.com (main-fw-eth1.packetdesign.com [192.168.0.254]) by mailman.packetdesign.com (8.12.6/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h121pGXj039663; Sat, 1 Feb 2003 17:51:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from casner@acm.org) Message-Id: <20030201180525.W4645-100000@oak.packetdesign.com> Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 18:09:45 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Stephen Casner To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: lost subscription In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: casner@packetdesign.com X-To: Bruce Cohen X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Sat, 1 Feb 2003, Bruce Cohen wrote: > I seem to have been expunged from the mailing list for some time now - > about six weeks or so ago is my guess. I have written several messages > with no response to pine-info-owner and finally just tried to post to the > list which confirmed that I no longer had a subscription. > > Obviously I have resubscribed. > > Does anyone know why I was removed, and am I the only one to whom this has > happened? Same thing happened to me on December 19 or 20. -- Steve From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 3 07:55:53 2003 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 07:55:53 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h13FtrTk022064; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 07:55:53 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h13FtmWb007338 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Mon, 3 Feb 2003 07:55:49 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with SMTP id h13Fsbll030540; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 07:54:37 -0800 Received: from mxu7.u.washington.edu (mxu7.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.165]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h13FrJCK074894 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 07:53:19 -0800 Received: from t0c.de ([217.172.180.177]) by mxu7.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h13FrFHU029726 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 07:53:16 -0800 Received: from pD9E67A78.dip.t-dialin.net (pD9E67A78.dip.t-dialin.net [217.230.122.120]) by t0c.de (8.11.3/8.11.3/SuSE Linux 8.11.1-0.5) with ESMTP id h13Fr7603254 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 16:53:07 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 17:03:10 +0100 (CET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Daniel Albuschat To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Where are { and } gone? (pine 4.5) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: daniel@brot X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIIIII, Probability=9%, Report="PGP_SIGNATURE, RCVD_IN_OSIRUSOFT_COM, SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE, SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, USER_AGENT_PINE, X_OSIRU_DUL, X_OSIRU_DUL_FH" X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=II, Probability=2%, Report="PGP_SIGNATURE, RCVD_IN_OSIRUSOFT_COM, USER_AGENT_PINE, X_OSIRU_DUL, X_OSIRU_DUL_FH" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 HI, I'm using Gentoo Linux and upgraded my pine installation with the gentoo portage system. The current stable version is Pine 4.50L0 (what does the 0L0 stand for?). But in this version, the threading functionality seems to be reduced... I'm only able to see the expanded thread view. Collapsing with { and later expanding with } does not work anymore. I'm just getting [Command "{" not defined for this screen. Use ? for help] Why did this function disappear in the new version? cu, Daniel - -- eat(this); // delicious suicide -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+PpLBaWDp5fmJLkARAjd8AJwPKqIrKUcVV4jYLi+Yu6JL0nlbMACdGEev AV9UgahuknF78E1OG3Wg4xE= =VJ1l -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 3 08:09:14 2003 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 08:09:14 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h13G9DTk022585; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 08:09:13 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h13G98Wb007851 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Mon, 3 Feb 2003 08:09:09 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with SMTP id h13G86jm101658; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 08:08:06 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.132]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h13G7YCK074834 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 08:07:34 -0800 Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h13G7WfV030183 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 08:07:33 -0800 Received: from goedel1.math.washington.edu (goedel1.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.10]) by euler.math.washington.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h13G7Oq134013; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 08:07:24 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 08:07:24 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Eduardo Chappa To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Where are { and } gone? (pine 4.5) In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Daniel Albuschat X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN *** Daniel Albuschat (daniel@brot.t0c.de) wrote in the pine-info list today: :) I'm using Gentoo Linux and upgraded my pine installation with the :) gentoo portage system. The current stable version is Pine 4.50L0 (what :) does the 0L0 stand for?). The "L0" part indicates that there was a modification from the part of the person that built that version of Pine, and in particular it means that if you find a problem (a bug report) you should contact the person that built that version of Pine before you report it here (because the bug may have been introduced by that person). :) But in this version, the threading functionality seems to be reduced... :) I'm only able to see the expanded thread view. Collapsing with { and :) later expanding with } does not work anymore. I'm just getting :) :) [Command "{" not defined for this screen. Use ? for help] :) :) Why did this function disappear in the new version? You were using a patched version of Pine (as you are doing now). I have a patch that restores most of the commands that are missing in pine4.5X in thread mode, among them: * You can expand and collapse all threads with the "{" and "}" commands, * You can sort threads by arrival. * No need to collapse a thread to delete it (^D and ^U work as before). The latest patch is for version 4.53 and is the one I would recommend you to use. -- Eduardo http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/ From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 3 08:12:17 2003 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 08:12:17 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h13GCHTk022762; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 08:12:17 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h13GCDnO004488 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Mon, 3 Feb 2003 08:12:14 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with SMTP id h13GBJll019372; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 08:11:19 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h13GB1CK070798 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 08:11:01 -0800 Received: from auds951.usa.alcatel.com (auds951.usa.alcatel.com [143.209.238.80]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h13GAwM5010903 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 08:10:58 -0800 Received: from ssd.usa.alcatel.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by auds951.usa.alcatel.com (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h13GAvJV003209 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 10:10:57 -0600 (CST) Received: from sun1628.ssd.usa.alcatel.com (sun1628.ssd.usa.alcatel.com [143.209.132.213]) by ssd.usa.alcatel.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id h13GAHM05627 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 10:10:17 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 10:10:17 -0600 (CST) Reply-To: Me Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Robbie Martinez To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: sent-mail, To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine info list X-Sender: romartin@sun1628.ssd.usa.alcatel.com X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=I, Probability=1%, Report="SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN When viewing my 'sent-mail' folder in pine, I used to see the recipient of my email, e.g. N 298 Apr 26 To: person1@nothing.com (548) subject 1 N 299 Apr 26 To: person2@nothing.com (785) subject 2 N 300 Apr 26 To: person2@nothing.com (111K) subject 3 Now, I only see my name, i.e., the 'sender' of my email. N 207 Apr 30 Robbie Martinez (709) subject 1 N 208 Apr 30 Robbie Martinez (631) subject 2 N 209 Apr 30 Robbie Martinez (741) subject 3 I'm not sure exactly what I did to change this behavior, but I believe I'm using the same version of pine as I did before, Version 4.05 (built Fri Oct 2 10:15:33 CDT 1998) If anyone has a solution, please let me know. Thanks, Robbie -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 3 08:31:46 2003 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 08:31:45 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h13GVjTk023442; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 08:31:45 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h13GVenO005136 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Mon, 3 Feb 2003 08:31:41 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with SMTP id h13GUcDb084046; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 08:30:38 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.133]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h13GTrCK067906 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 08:29:53 -0800 Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h13GTpkp023037 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 08:29:51 -0800 Received: from goedel1.math.washington.edu (goedel1.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.10]) by euler.math.washington.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h13GTmq102480; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 08:29:48 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 08:29:48 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Eduardo Chappa To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: sent-mail, To: In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Robbie Martinez X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN *** Robbie Martinez (Robbie.Martinez@alcatel.com) wrote in the pine-info...: :) When viewing my 'sent-mail' folder in pine, I used to see the recipient :) of my email, e.g. :) :) N 298 Apr 26 To: person1@nothing.com (548) subject 1 :) [deleted] :) Now, I only see my name, i.e., the 'sender' of my email. :) :) N 207 Apr 30 Robbie Martinez (709) subject 1 :) [deleted] :) I'm not sure exactly what I did to change this behavior, but :) I believe I'm using the same version of pine as I did before, Make sure that the address that you are using to send messages (the one that appears in the From: field of the messages that you send) appears in the alt-addresses variable (press M S C to get to the screen where you can find that variable). -- Eduardo http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/ From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 3 09:50:14 2003 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 09:50:14 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h13HoDTk026668; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 09:50:13 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h13Ho9Wb011491 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Mon, 3 Feb 2003 09:50:09 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with SMTP id h13Hj509023326; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 09:45:05 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.132]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h13HiMCK067846 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 09:44:22 -0800 Received: from t0c.de ([217.172.180.177]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h13HiIfW029856 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 09:44:20 -0800 Received: from pD9E67A78.dip.t-dialin.net (pD9E67A78.dip.t-dialin.net [217.230.122.120]) by t0c.de (8.11.3/8.11.3/SuSE Linux 8.11.1-0.5) with ESMTP id h13HiD604273 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 18:44:13 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 18:54:29 +0100 (CET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Daniel Albuschat To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: search all folders for new messages MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: daniel@brot X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XIIIII, Probability=15%, Report="RCVD_IN_OSIRUSOFT_COM, SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE, SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, USER_AGENT_PINE, X_OSIRU_DUL, X_OSIRU_DUL_FH" X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIIIII, Probability=9%, Report="RCVD_IN_OSIRUSOFT_COM, USER_AGENT_PINE, X_OSIRU_DUL, X_OSIRU_DUL_FH" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi list, Is there anyway to let pine search every folder for new messages? I've set up procmail play a sound when receiving mails and when hearing this sound, I have to go through every folder to check for new mails... I'm thinking of a looking-through-folder tab feature. thanks, Daniel -- eat(this); // delicious suicide -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 3 10:30:57 2003 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 10:30:57 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h13IUtTk028586; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 10:30:55 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h13IUpWb013194 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Mon, 3 Feb 2003 10:30:52 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with SMTP id h13IUG09014802; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 10:30:16 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.132]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h13IThCK083880 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 10:29:43 -0800 Received: from claven.astro.princeton.edu (claven.astro.Princeton.EDU [128.112.25.10]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h13ITcfV013731 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 10:29:39 -0800 Received: from xanadu (IDENT:huston@xanadu [128.112.24.13]) by claven.astro.princeton.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h13ITU908718; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 13:29:30 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 13:29:30 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Steve Huston To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: search all folders for new messages In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Daniel Albuschat X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mon, 3 Feb 2003, Daniel Albuschat wrote: > Is there anyway to let pine search every folder for new > messages? I've set up procmail play a sound when receiving > mails and when hearing this sound, I have to go through > every folder to check for new mails... > I'm thinking of a looking-through-folder tab feature. The sequence I use all the time works for me, though it's not as nice as just jumping from one folder to another with new mail: l;puz Now all folders with new mail are marked, and we're zoomed in that list. Go through them all, then 'l;a;puz' to check again. When it doesn't have anything left to zoom in on, get coffee. Repeat. -- Steve Huston - Unix Systems Administrator, Dept. of Astrophysical Sciences Princeton University | ICBM Address: 40.346525 -74.651285 126 Peyton Hall |"On my ship, the Rocinante, wheeling through Princeton, NJ 08544 | the galaxies; headed for the heart of Cygnus, (609) 258-7375 | headlong into mystery." -Rush, 'Cygnus X-1' From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 3 10:37:26 2003 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 10:37:26 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h13IbMTk028908; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 10:37:22 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h13IbFnO009991 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Mon, 3 Feb 2003 10:37:16 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with SMTP id h13IaNjm006124; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 10:36:23 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.132]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h13Ia5CK070660 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 10:36:05 -0800 Received: from t0c.de ([217.172.180.177]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h13Ia1fW016018 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 10:36:02 -0800 Received: from pD9E67A78.dip.t-dialin.net (pD9E67A78.dip.t-dialin.net [217.230.122.120]) by t0c.de (8.11.3/8.11.3/SuSE Linux 8.11.1-0.5) with ESMTP id h13IZx604882; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 19:35:59 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 19:46:11 +0100 (CET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Daniel Albuschat To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: search all folders for new messages In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Steve Huston X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: daniel@brot X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 3 Feb 2003, Steve Huston wrote: > On Mon, 3 Feb 2003, Daniel Albuschat wrote: > > Is there anyway to let pine search every folder for new > > messages? I've set up procmail play a sound when receiving > > mails and when hearing this sound, I have to go through > > every folder to check for new mails... > > I'm thinking of a looking-through-folder tab feature. > > The sequence I use all the time works for me, though it's not as nice as just > jumping from one folder to another with new mail: > > l;puz > > Now all folders with new mail are marked, and we're zoomed in that list. Go > through them all, then 'l;a;puz' to check again. When it doesn't have > anything left to zoom in on, get coffee. Repeat. > What exactly do you mean by l;puz? I assume you mean pressing exactly these keys in the main screen... but that doesn't work since ;pu and z are not mapped in the folder listing screen in my version (4.50L0). Are you using perhaps another version or just mean it different? thanks, daniel - -- eat(this); // delicious suicide -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+Prj1aWDp5fmJLkARAknIAJ4s2BYwa1ouHkM5FHbA0X6B/A3MYwCfVdga ifykzdSI5WTNp5M/iBwPvB0= =Zd2S -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 3 10:44:15 2003 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 10:44:15 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h13IiCTk029194; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 10:44:12 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h13Ii8Wb013694 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Mon, 3 Feb 2003 10:44:08 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with SMTP id h13IhK09017584; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 10:43:20 -0800 Received: from mxu5.u.washington.edu (mxu5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.164]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h13IgnCK024710 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 10:42:49 -0800 Received: from claven.astro.princeton.edu (claven.astro.Princeton.EDU [128.112.25.10]) by mxu5.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h13IggZ7017923 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 10:42:43 -0800 Received: from xanadu (IDENT:huston@xanadu [128.112.24.13]) by claven.astro.princeton.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h13Igf909551; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 13:42:41 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 13:42:41 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Steve Huston To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: search all folders for new messages In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Daniel Albuschat X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mon, 3 Feb 2003, Daniel Albuschat wrote: > On Mon, 3 Feb 2003, Steve Huston wrote: > > On Mon, 3 Feb 2003, Daniel Albuschat wrote: > > > Is there anyway to let pine search every folder for new > > > messages? I've set up procmail play a sound when receiving > > > mails and when hearing this sound, I have to go through > > > every folder to check for new mails... > > > I'm thinking of a looking-through-folder tab feature. > > The sequence I use all the time works for me, though it's not as nice as just > > jumping from one folder to another with new mail: > > l;puz > > Now all folders with new mail are marked, and we're zoomed in that list. Go > > through them all, then 'l;a;puz' to check again. When it doesn't have > > anything left to zoom in on, get coffee. Repeat. > What exactly do you mean by l;puz? > I assume you mean pressing exactly these keys in the main screen... Yep; sorry, could've been a little clearer with that :> > but that doesn't work since ;pu and z are not mapped in the folder > listing screen in my version (4.50L0). > Are you using perhaps another version or just mean it different? Probably that there's some configuration options that you don't have turned on, or else the keys changed since version 4.44 (what I run on the network here right now). Make sure that enable-aggregate-command-set is turned on either in your .pinerc or in the config page, and possibly enable-flag-cmd but I'm not sure if that's needed. -- Steve Huston - Unix Systems Administrator, Dept. of Astrophysical Sciences Princeton University | ICBM Address: 40.346525 -74.651285 126 Peyton Hall |"On my ship, the Rocinante, wheeling through Princeton, NJ 08544 | the galaxies; headed for the heart of Cygnus, (609) 258-7375 | headlong into mystery." -Rush, 'Cygnus X-1' From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 3 10:49:00 2003 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 10:49:00 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h13ImxTk029423; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 10:48:59 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h13ImpnO010422 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Mon, 3 Feb 2003 10:48:52 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with SMTP id h13Ilwjm005902; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 10:47:59 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.132]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h13IlXCK070884 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 10:47:34 -0800 Received: from t0c.de ([217.172.180.177]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h13IlQfW020282 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 10:47:27 -0800 Received: from pD9E67A78.dip.t-dialin.net (pD9E67A78.dip.t-dialin.net [217.230.122.120]) by t0c.de (8.11.3/8.11.3/SuSE Linux 8.11.1-0.5) with ESMTP id h13IlO605066; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 19:47:24 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 19:57:35 +0100 (CET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Daniel Albuschat To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: search all folders for new messages In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Steve Huston X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: daniel@brot X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 3 Feb 2003, Steve Huston wrote: > On Mon, 3 Feb 2003, Daniel Albuschat wrote: > > On Mon, 3 Feb 2003, Steve Huston wrote: > > > On Mon, 3 Feb 2003, Daniel Albuschat wrote: > > > > Is there anyway to let pine search every folder for new > > > > messages? I've set up procmail play a sound when receiving > > > > mails and when hearing this sound, I have to go through > > > > every folder to check for new mails... > > > > I'm thinking of a looking-through-folder tab feature. > > > The sequence I use all the time works for me, though it's not as nice as just > > > jumping from one folder to another with new mail: > > > l;puz > > > Now all folders with new mail are marked, and we're zoomed in that list. Go > > > through them all, then 'l;a;puz' to check again. When it doesn't have > > > anything left to zoom in on, get coffee. Repeat. > > What exactly do you mean by l;puz? > > I assume you mean pressing exactly these keys in the main screen... > > Yep; sorry, could've been a little clearer with that :> > > > but that doesn't work since ;pu and z are not mapped in the folder > > listing screen in my version (4.50L0). > > Are you using perhaps another version or just mean it different? > > Probably that there's some configuration options that you don't have turned > on, or else the keys changed since version 4.44 (what I run on the network > here right now). Make sure that enable-aggregate-command-set is turned on > either in your .pinerc or in the config page, and possibly enable-flag-cmd but > I'm not sure if that's needed. yep, that works! thanks alot, daniel - -- eat(this); // delicious suicide -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+PruiaWDp5fmJLkARAvHXAJ9uxb+vOb6Xtoq9+EalEsSEl0TY7wCfWZlL 1d1o8ZvGVe+ngg8NY2UvX2U= =s9Gh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 3 15:52:42 2003 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 15:52:42 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h13NqfTk009534; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 15:52:41 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h13NqbWb025288 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Mon, 3 Feb 2003 15:52:38 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with SMTP id h13NpVDb073680; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 15:51:31 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.132]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h13NlMCK018282 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 15:47:22 -0800 Received: from server1.shellworld.net (server1.shellworld.net [64.39.15.178]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h13NlJfW002823 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 15:47:20 -0800 Received: from localhost (fairall@localhost) by server1.shellworld.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id h13NlIS19214 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 17:47:18 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from fairall@ns.shellworld.net) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 18:47:18 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Leslie Fairall To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: search all folders for new messages In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: fairall@server1.shellworld.net X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XXX, Probability=30%, Report="IN_REP_TO, NO_MX_FOR_FROM, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, RCVD_IN_MULTIHOP_DSBL, RCVD_IN_UNCONFIRMED_DSBL, REFERENCES, SPAM_PHRASE_02_03, USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XXIIII, Probability=24%, Report="IN_REP_TO, MISSING_HEADERS, NO_MX_FOR_FROM, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REFERENCES, SPAM_PHRASE_02_03, USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I also use the sequence l;puz to search for new messages in folders. However, the problem I'm having is that pine zooms in on folders that do not contain any messages at all. Someone on another list said that the problem might be that pine is compiled with an internal message. However, I do not see this message in any of my folders. Could anyone offer a some help with this? Thanks. On Mon, 3 Feb 2003, Steve Huston wrote: > On Mon, 3 Feb 2003, Daniel Albuschat wrote: > > Is there anyway to let pine search every folder for new > > messages? I've set up procmail play a sound when receiving > > mails and when hearing this sound, I have to go through > > every folder to check for new mails... > > I'm thinking of a looking-through-folder tab feature. > > The sequence I use all the time works for me, though it's not as nice as just > jumping from one folder to another with new mail: > > l;puz > > Now all folders with new mail are marked, and we're zoomed in that list. Go > through them all, then 'l;a;puz' to check again. When it doesn't have > anything left to zoom in on, get coffee. Repeat. > > -- > Steve Huston - Unix Systems Administrator, Dept. of Astrophysical Sciences > Princeton University | ICBM Address: 40.346525 -74.651285 > 126 Peyton Hall |"On my ship, the Rocinante, wheeling through > Princeton, NJ 08544 | the galaxies; headed for the heart of Cygnus, > (609) 258-7375 | headlong into mystery." -Rush, 'Cygnus X-1' > From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 3 18:46:10 2003 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 18:46:10 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h142k9Tk014966; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 18:46:09 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h142k5Wb030256 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Mon, 3 Feb 2003 18:46:06 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with SMTP id h142irDb083928; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 18:44:53 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.132]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h142hRCK059170 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 18:43:27 -0800 Received: from mxout3.cac.washington.edu (mxout3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.166]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h142hPfW026040 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 18:43:25 -0800 Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.32.139]) by mxout3.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h142hOAa014197 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 18:43:24 -0800 Received: from jeffro.nebula.washington.edu (fw135.cac.washington.edu [128.95.135.30]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h142hKTZ024176 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 18:43:24 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 18:43:20 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Jeff Franklin To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Bug in 4.52 (and others)? In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Tue, 21 Jan 2003, Stefan Goessling-Reisemann wrote: > I start Unix-Pine (4.33 on different Unixes/Linux) and PC-Pine (4.44, > 4.51, 4.52, 4.53 on Win 98, NT, XP) on different machines with the option > -p{imapserver/user=myusername/ssl}.pinerc, which always works fine. Just > when I look at the actual .pinerc in my home-dir it tends to get bigger > and bigger over time. To be precise: in doubles in size every once in a > while, and I cannot figure out under what circumstances. If I look at the > .pinerc with Pine (opening it as a mail folder, which it actually is), I > see 5 'messages', the first one being only some general information, the > other four being configurations (3 old ones, one actual one). So far so > good. In the course of a few weeks, the size of the configurations > increased from 8 to 17 to 33 kB to .... Upon inspection, I saw that each > configuration message contained one (two, four, ..) sets of the > configuration settings appended to each other. For those interested, we settled this off the list. There is a bug in pine where this can occur with remote pinercs, and it is most likely to happen when editing a config in 4.4x and subsequently editing it in 4.50-3. The bug will be fixed in the next release. Jeff From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 4 11:32:07 2003 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 11:32:07 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h14JW3Tk011381; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 11:32:03 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h14JVunO021826 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Tue, 4 Feb 2003 11:31:57 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with SMTP id h14JAkDb015652; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 11:10:46 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.133]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h14J9JCK081698 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 11:09:20 -0800 Received: from aa.linuxbox.nu (aa.linuxbox.nu [208.149.147.129]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h14J9Ikp010845 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 11:09:18 -0800 Received: from kronos (kronos.linuxbox.private.nu [10.1.1.43]) by aa.linuxbox.nu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h14J97A23356 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 14:09:07 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 14:09:07 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Arthur H. Johnson II" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Reply-To MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: arthur@kronos.linuxbox.private.nu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I can't get Reply-To to work correctly in Pine. I followed the directions located here: http://www.washington.edu/computing/faqs/html/pine.replyto But no luck. The reply-to gets set to the from attribute no matter what. If this helps, I have another customized header to set my from address. Not sure if thats relivent. -- Arthur H. Johnson II Senior Systems Engineer The Linux Box 206 S. Fifth Ave. Suite 150 Ann Arbor, MI 48104 tel. 734-761-4689 fax. 734-769-8938 pgr. 734-882-0323 cel. 810-610-9583 txt. 8106109583@vmobl.com -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 5 09:06:10 2003 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 09:06:10 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h15H69Tk017230; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 09:06:09 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h15H65nO024359 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Wed, 5 Feb 2003 09:06:05 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with SMTP id h15H54Db090130; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 09:05:04 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h15H4CCK050360 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 09:04:12 -0800 Received: from ares.cs.Virginia.EDU (ares.cs.Virginia.EDU [128.143.137.19]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h15H49M5021981 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 09:04:09 -0800 Received: from arachnion.cs.Virginia.EDU (arachnion.cs.Virginia.EDU [128.143.136.20]) by ares.cs.Virginia.EDU (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.2/UVACS-2000040300) with ESMTP id MAA16757 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 12:04:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (nc2y@localhost) by arachnion.cs.Virginia.EDU (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id MAA29463 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 12:04:07 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 12:04:07 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Nicolas Christin To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: User-Agent and Message-ID fields MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine-Info Mailing-List X-Authentication-Warning: arachnion.cs.Virginia.EDU: nc2y owned process doing -bs X-X-Sender: nc2y@arachnion.cs.Virginia.EDU X-No-Archive: no X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi, I recently posted a patch on comp.mail.pine, but I realized that the pine-info mailing-list was probably a better place to get feedback from people who are actually potentially interested in this kind of details. The short sotory is, I wrote a patch for 4.53 that 1. removes the leading Pine.ABC.x.yz from the Message ID, and 2. replaces it with: User-Agent: Pine/x.yz (ABC) in the headers (no, I'm not using my customized pine at the moment, so don't look in the headers of this mail they won't show anything interesting.) The motivation for this was to be strictly compliant to Usenet Format, which recommends a User-Agent field be present in the headers. (It's a "SHOULD", not a "MUST", but still...) However, I noticed that, when examining my sent-mail folder, Pine would angrily tell me that my newsgroup post may or may NOT have made it. After inspection of the source, I found that this was caused by a so-called "kludge" in rfc822.c. So, I modified my initial patch to take care of that issue, but more importantly, I believe that this portion of the patch (the modifications to rfc822.c and imap4r1.c) could be used to improve on the aforementioned "kludge". (The patch itself is available at , if you want to look at the code. This is not rocket science, far from it.) Basically, pine tries to detect if a newsgroup post was made by a "winning mail program" in order to consider it as non-bogus. However, that code was written somewhere between 1995-1998. Since then, a number of reputable mail/news programs have opted for putting their agent information in the User-Agent field rather than embedding it in the Message-ID. Sure enough, "User-Agent" is not part of RFC [2]822, but I honestly think it is worth checking if one has been specified, and if so, if it belongs to a reasonable mail and news program. In the patch I propose, I only check whether the User-Agent field contains "Pine/" (since that's what the patch provides in the first place) but this could be easily extended to other checks. Does anyone have any opinion on this? Best, -- Nicolas -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 5 09:12:25 2003 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 09:12:25 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h15HCOTk017524; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 09:12:24 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h15HCIWb025397 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Wed, 5 Feb 2003 09:12:19 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with SMTP id h15HBR09005748; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 09:11:28 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.132]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h15HAuCK018410 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 09:10:56 -0800 Received: from relay-3v.club-internet.fr (relay-3v.club-internet.fr [194.158.96.114]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h15HAnfV008402 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 09:10:50 -0800 Received: from [192.168.1.2] (f09v-7-210.d1.club-internet.fr [212.194.186.210]) by relay-3v.club-internet.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 156CF16C9; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 18:09:56 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <0302051804080.139127936@elge9.free.fr> Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 18:10:38 +0100 (CET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Pierre-Philipp Braun To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: PGP as attachment - how? In-Reply-To: <0301311553250.0@somehost.domainz.com> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Erik Parker X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Friday 2003-01-31 @15:55 (-0600), Erik Parker wrote, > :0 fw > * ^Content-Type: multipart/encrypted > | formail -i "Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII" > ## > > :0 fw > * ^Content-Type: Application/PGP > | formail -i "Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII" > ## > > > ## to handle multipart crapola from stuff > :0 fw > * ^Content-Type: application/pgp-signature > | formail -i "Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII" > ## Thanks for this. I don't mind recieving signatures into body since pine is now able to understand those inline. > As for sending.. I use PinePG.. and it works fine for sending and recieving. I > send signature and messages in body. I'm not sure where you found that it is > standard to send them as an attachment.. but the only people I Email with GPG > that use attachments, are Mutt users. All the winlusers, and unix people i > send back and forth with, mostly in the security industry, use inline. But most of the people don't have any PGP enabled email client, so i would like my pine to send signatures as attachments. I'm wondering if either PinePG, pgp4pine, pgpenvelope or PinePgp would be able to do that. Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks in advance. -- Pierre-Philipp From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 10:11:17 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h15IBGTk020163; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 10:11:16 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h15IBDnO027458 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Wed, 5 Feb 2003 10:11:13 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with SMTP id h15IAE09010412; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 10:10:14 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h15I9VCK018350 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 10:09:31 -0800 Received: from relay-4v.club-internet.fr (relay-4v.club-internet.fr [194.158.96.115]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h15I9NQY030774 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 10:09:29 -0800 Received: from [192.168.1.2] (f09v-7-210.d1.club-internet.fr [212.194.186.210]) by relay-4v.club-internet.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2926416FA for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 19:09:21 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <0302051847320.139338240@elge9.free.fr> Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 19:09:13 +0100 (CET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Pierre-Philipp Braun To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: PGP as attachment - how? In-Reply-To: <0302051804080.139127936@elge9.free.fr> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: Pierre-Philipp Braun X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Wednesday 2003-02-05 @18:10 (+0100), Pierre-Philipp Braun wrote, > But most of the people don't have any PGP enabled email client, so i > would like my pine to send signatures as attachments. > > I'm wondering if either PinePG, pgp4pine, pgpenvelope or PinePgp would be > able to do that. I believe i need to tweek my patched Pine configuration do that. Kind of automatic attachment rule (could i use Eduardo's rules.patch for that?). The MIME format should be something like Application/PGP-SIGNATURE or something BTW. I would like my Pine to allways attach a PGP signature (by default if possible). There's probably there's a way to do that, combining existing features. Any idea about combining Pine with some pine*pg scritps to join the scripts output automaticly as attachments would be appreciated. Thanks in advance. -- Pierre-Philipp From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 10:49:16 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h15InFTk021641; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 10:49:15 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h15InBnO029048 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Wed, 5 Feb 2003 10:49:12 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with SMTP id h15ImIll019176; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 10:48:18 -0800 Received: from mxu5.u.washington.edu (mxu5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.164]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h15IlWCK087932 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 10:47:33 -0800 Received: from vax.hanford.org (vax.hanford.org [216.218.218.27]) by mxu5.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with SMTP id h15IlTZ7024007 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 10:47:29 -0800 Received: (qmail 5469 invoked by uid 1828); 5 Feb 2003 18:47:28 -0000 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 10:47:28 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Matt Ackeret To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: User-Agent and Message-ID fields In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XXXXII, Probability=42%, Report="IN_REP_TO, NO_MX_FOR_FROM, RCVD_IN_MULTIHOP_DSBL, RCVD_IN_UNCONFIRMED_DSBL, SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XXIIIIIIII, Probability=28%, Report="IN_REP_TO, NO_MX_FOR_FROM, SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Wed, 5 Feb 2003, Nicolas Christin wrote: >However, I noticed that, when examining my sent-mail folder, Pine >would angrily tell me that my newsgroup post may or may NOT have made >it. After inspection of the source, I found that this was caused by a This isn't really related, but the "reply by mail, post, both" question really really bugs me. I guess I appreciate that it's asking me, but I typically don't both email and reply to Usenet.. and I don't use pine for Usenet, thus I don't want to have pine suggest posting to me. Basically I wish that I could make that question go away and it would always just reply by email. From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 16:46:53 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h160krTk001866; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 16:46:53 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h160knWb009167 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Wed, 5 Feb 2003 16:46:49 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with SMTP id h160iv09030994; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 16:44:58 -0800 Received: from mxu7.u.washington.edu (mxu7.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.165]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h160htCK061378 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 16:43:55 -0800 Received: from fnord.marigoldtech.com (19-236-234-66.cosmoweb.net [66.234.236.19]) by mxu7.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with SMTP id h160hrHT000488 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 16:43:54 -0800 Received: (qmail 18666 invoked from network); 6 Feb 2003 00:43:02 -0000 Received: from ip-216-36-77-146.dsl.sjc.megapath.net (HELO marigoldtech.com) (216.36.77.146) by 0 with SMTP; 6 Feb 2003 00:43:02 -0000 Message-Id: <02B6C089-396C-11D7-B881-000A956665E8@marigoldtech.com> Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 17:43:29 -0700 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Todd Goldenbaum To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Setting the From: Address Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=II, Probability=2%, Report="SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE, SPAM_PHRASE_01_02, __EVITE_CTYPE" I'm setting up a new pine installation on an os x box. The name of my user account on this box is different (for the first time) than the username that appears on the left-side of the at sign in my email address. How do I set that variable in pine? It seems I can only set the domain, and then it automatically uses my unix username. thanks, Todd -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 06:43:30 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h16EhTTk021655; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 06:43:29 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h16EhNWb027772 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Thu, 6 Feb 2003 06:43:23 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with SMTP id h16Efjll032326; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 06:41:45 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.133]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h16EeoCK047394 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 06:40:50 -0800 Received: from msgdirector1.onetel.net.uk (msgdirector1.onetel.net.uk [212.67.96.148]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h16Eegkp012065 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 06:40:43 -0800 Received: from 213-78-78-162.friaco.onetel.net.uk (213-78-78-162.friaco.onetel.net.uk [213.78.78.162]) by msgdirector1.onetel.net.uk (Mirapoint) with ESMTP id APR08470; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 14:40:32 GMT Message-Id: Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 14:40:36 +0000 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Nancy McGough To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Setting the From: Address In-Reply-To: <02B6C089-396C-11D7-B881-000A956665E8@marigoldtech.com> References: <02B6C089-396C-11D7-B881-000A956665E8@marigoldtech.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Technical Discussion Forum X-Message-Flag: Worried about Outlook viruses? Switch to Mac/Unix/PC Pine! Info @ www.ii.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On 5 Feb 2003 Todd Goldenbaum (todd@marigoldtech.com) wrote: > > How do I set that variable in pine? It seems I can only set > the domain, and then it automatically uses my unix username. This is a very confusing aspect of Pine's user interface and I've even listed fixing it as my number one Pine wish on my main Pine page in this section Wish #1: Make it Easier to Change the Default From Header in Unix Pine This describes the problem, ways to get around it now, and suggestions for how to improve this aspect of Pine's interface. Feedback is welcome, Nancy -- -- I N F I N I T E I N K www.ii.com N A N C Y M c G O U G H -- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 07:01:27 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h16F1QTk022090; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 07:01:26 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h16F1LWb028231 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Thu, 6 Feb 2003 07:01:21 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with SMTP id h16ExZ09005778; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 06:59:36 -0800 Received: from mxu5.u.washington.edu (mxu5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.164]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h16Ex7CK062306 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 06:59:07 -0800 Received: from arthur.edulib.ro (arthur.edulib.ro [217.156.14.2]) by mxu5.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h16Ex4Z7001513 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 06:59:05 -0800 Received: from arthur.edulib.ro (catalin@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by arthur.edulib.ro (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h16EwwAP025483; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 16:58:58 +0200 Received: from localhost (catalin@localhost) by arthur.edulib.ro (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) with ESMTP id h16Ewv0O025480; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 16:58:57 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 16:58:57 +0200 (EET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Catalin Braica To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Setting the From: Address In-Reply-To: References: <02B6C089-396C-11D7-B881-000A956665E8@marigoldtech.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Nancy McGough X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: arthur.edulib.ro: catalin owned process doing -bs X-RAVMilter-Version: 8.3.3(snapshot 20020312) (arthur) X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN But you can do that already. Go to Main -> Setup -> Rules -> Roles , add a role, and scroll at the bottom, to Compose Use, set it to Without confirmation, then modify 'Set From' to the address you want the From: header be set, then give it a nickname for the role, Exit twice, with changes saved, then try to compose a message, see the From: header, send it to yourself to make sure it is set as you want. Not sure if this works for replying/forwarding etc, but there's plenty of room to play with roles settings |On Thu, 6 Feb 2003, Nancy McGough wrote: |Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 14:40:36 +0000 (GMT) |From: Nancy McGough |To: Pine Discussion Forum |Subject: Re: Setting the From: Address | |On 5 Feb 2003 Todd Goldenbaum (todd@marigoldtech.com) wrote: |> |> How do I set that variable in pine? It seems I can only set |> the domain, and then it automatically uses my unix username. | | |This is a very confusing aspect of Pine's user interface and I've |even listed fixing it as my number one Pine wish on my main Pine |page in this section | | | Wish #1: Make it Easier to Change the Default From Header | in Unix Pine | | |This describes the problem, ways to get around it now, and |suggestions for how to improve this aspect of Pine's interface. | |Feedback is welcome, |Nancy | | ____________________________________ Catalin Braica catalin.braica AT edulib DOT ro http://www.edulib.ro/~catalin/ From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 07:15:42 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h16FFfTk022400; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 07:15:42 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h16FFZnO029202 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Thu, 6 Feb 2003 07:15:36 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with SMTP id h16FDtll020074; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 07:13:56 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h16FDPCK047492 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 07:13:25 -0800 Received: from msgdirector2.onetel.net.uk (msgdirector2.onetel.net.uk [212.67.96.149]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h16FDMQY000440 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 07:13:23 -0800 Received: from 213-78-83-125.friaco.onetel.net.uk (213-78-83-125.friaco.onetel.net.uk [213.78.83.125]) by msgdirector2.onetel.net.uk (Mirapoint) with ESMTP id APG11810; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 15:13:13 GMT Message-Id: Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 15:13:16 +0000 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Nancy McGough To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Setting the From: Address In-Reply-To: References: <02B6C089-396C-11D7-B881-000A956665E8@marigoldtech.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Technical Discussion Forum X-Message-Flag: Worried about Outlook viruses? Switch to Mac/Unix/PC Pine! Info @ www.ii.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN > |On Thu, 6 Feb 2003, Nancy McGough wrote: > | > |This is a very confusing aspect of Pine's user interface and I've > |even listed fixing it as my number one Pine wish on my main Pine > |page in this section > | > | Wish #1: Make it Easier to Change the Default From Header > | in Unix Pine > | On 6 Feb 2003 Catalin Braica (catalin@edulib.ro) wrote: > But you can do that already. Yes, I know and I actually have information about how to do it on my site. What I meant by "fixing it" is *fixing Pine's user interface* so that people will stop asking this question almost every day! -Nancy -- PROCMAIL IMAP PINE -- I N F I N I T E I N K www.ii.com N A N C Y M c G O U G H -- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 07:21:26 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h16FLPTk022552; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 07:21:25 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h16FLKnO029377 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Thu, 6 Feb 2003 07:21:21 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with SMTP id h16FK5ll032774; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 07:20:05 -0800 Received: from mxu5.u.washington.edu (mxu5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.164]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h16FJnCK079210 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 07:19:49 -0800 Received: from hermes.xait.no ([212.33.159.25]) by mxu5.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h16FJjZ7006062 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 07:19:47 -0800 Received: from login.xait.no (zevs.xait.no [212.33.159.9]) by hermes.xait.no (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id h16FJE301731; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 16:19:14 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 16:19:20 +0100 (CET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: apu1@weibell.no To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Send same message many times MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XIIIIIIII, Probability=18%, Report="NO_REAL_NAME, SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE, SPAM_PHRASE_03_05, USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XIIII, Probability=14%, Report="NO_REAL_NAME, SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE, SPAM_PHRASE_02_03, USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Dear pine users! When I send mail to many friends at a time, I often use the BCC-field, to avoid spreading mail addresses via To or Bcc. I think that everyone should be allowed to decide to whom they want their mail address to be known, and in addition there could be a possible virus spreading risk. In chain letters or similar, it could also be a problem that people send a copy to a given address, and thereby spread the addresses to possible spammers. The drawback with using BCC or LCC, is that some people (e.g. hotmail users) have spam filters that put bcc-mail in the trash. What I would like, is a feature that allows me to enter all addresses in a To-field or "BTo"-field, if you like, and that Pine send all messages separately, so that each user only see their own address in the To-field, and optionally a "Copy sent to:" list of names only in the message body. Is this already on the wish list, or does anyone have other solutions? Regards, -- Atle Weibell -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 07:27:57 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h16FRvTk022743; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 07:27:57 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h16FRqWb028887 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Thu, 6 Feb 2003 07:27:53 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with SMTP id h16FQ109028306; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 07:26:02 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h16FPUCK063614 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 07:25:31 -0800 Received: from ares.cs.Virginia.EDU (ares.cs.Virginia.EDU [128.143.137.19]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h16FPQQY003243 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 07:25:26 -0800 Received: from arachnion.cs.Virginia.EDU (arachnion.cs.Virginia.EDU [128.143.136.20]) by ares.cs.Virginia.EDU (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.2/UVACS-2000040300) with ESMTP id KAA25509; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 10:25:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (nc2y@localhost) by arachnion.cs.Virginia.EDU (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id KAA01073; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 10:25:25 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 10:25:25 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Nicolas Christin To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Send same message many times In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: apu1@weibell.no X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: arachnion.cs.Virginia.EDU: nc2y owned process doing -bs X-X-Sender: nc2y@arachnion.cs.Virginia.EDU X-No-Archive: no X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Thu, 6 Feb 2003 apu1@weibell.no wrote: > What I would like, is a feature that allows me to enter all addresses > in a To-field or "BTo"-field, if you like, and that Pine send all > messages separately, so that each user only see their own address in > the To-field, and optionally a "Copy sent to:" list of names only in > the message body. > > Is this already on the wish list, or does anyone have other solutions? Why not just use a simple shell script for that? (using pine in a for loop over a list of recipients) - it wouldn't give you a "Copy sent to" field, but the message would appear once for every recipient in your sent-mail folder. Not necessarily the most "user-friendly" way of doing what you're asking for, but that's how I'd do it. -- Nicolas From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 07:49:52 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h16FnpTk023401; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 07:49:51 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h16FnlnO030182 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Thu, 6 Feb 2003 07:49:48 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with SMTP id h16FmG09031296; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 07:48:16 -0800 Received: from mxu7.u.washington.edu (mxu7.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.165]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h16FldCK079324 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 07:47:39 -0800 Received: from fnord.marigoldtech.com (19-236-234-66.cosmoweb.net [66.234.236.19]) by mxu7.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with SMTP id h16FlbHT027021 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 07:47:37 -0800 Received: (qmail 23989 invoked from network); 6 Feb 2003 15:46:48 -0000 Received: from ip-216-36-77-146.dsl.sjc.megapath.net (HELO marigoldtech.com) (216.36.77.146) by 0 with SMTP; 6 Feb 2003 15:46:48 -0000 Message-Id: <436848E5-39EA-11D7-A0DC-000A956665E8@marigoldtech.com> Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 08:47:14 -0700 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Todd Goldenbaum To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Setting the From: Address In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Thursday, February 6, 2003, at 08:13 AM, Nancy McGough wrote: >> |On Thu, 6 Feb 2003, Nancy McGough wrote: >> | >> |This is a very confusing aspect of Pine's user interface and I've >> |even listed fixing it as my number one Pine wish on my main Pine >> |page in this section >> | >> | Wish #1: Make it Easier to Change the Default From Header >> | in Unix Pine >> | > > On 6 Feb 2003 Catalin Braica (catalin@edulib.ro) wrote: >> But you can do that already. > > > Yes, I know and I actually have information about how to do it on > my site. What I meant by "fixing it" is *fixing Pine's user > interface* so that people will stop asking this question almost > every day! No doubt, I can see why it gets asked alot-- such an obvoius thing to add, amazing it's slipped the minds of the pine developers for so long. :-P Thanks for the help. Fwiw Catalin, the way you described the solution- making it sound like it should be obvious- almost sounds like some kind of high satire. ;) Todd From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 07:51:56 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h16FptTk023478; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 07:51:55 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h16FppnO030252 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Thu, 6 Feb 2003 07:51:51 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with SMTP id h16Fo4ll021536; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 07:50:04 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.133]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h16Fm6CK062272 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 07:48:06 -0800 Received: from mail1-195.desy.de (mailserver1.desy.de [131.169.87.109]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h16Ffikp024771 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 07:41:56 -0800 Received: from pcx1554.desy.de (pcx1554.desy.de [131.169.137.180]) by mail1-195.desy.de (8.8.5/8.8.5/R) with ESMTP id QAA14629 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 16:38:16 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 16:37:45 +0100 (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Westeurop=E4ische_Normalzeit?=) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Stefan Goessling-Reisemann To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Send same message many times In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: stefang@mail.desy.de X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN > On Thu, 6 Feb 2003 apu1@weibell.no wrote: > What I would like, is a feature that allows me to enter all addresses > in a To-field or "BTo"-field, if you like, and that Pine send all > messages separately, so that each user only see their own address in > the To-field, and optionally a "Copy sent to:" list of names only in > the message body. But is that not the intended use for the Bcc: field? Bcc: = Blind carbon copy When composing, press Ctrl-R in the header section and see the Bcc: field. Greetings, SGR From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 08:00:29 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h16G0STk023839; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 08:00:28 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h16G0PWb029902 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Thu, 6 Feb 2003 08:00:25 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with SMTP id h16Fx1ll017950; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 07:59:01 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.133]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h16FwSCK061360 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 07:58:28 -0800 Received: from arthur.edulib.ro (arthur.edulib.ro [217.156.14.2]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h16FwJkp028670 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 07:58:24 -0800 Received: from arthur.edulib.ro (catalin@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by arthur.edulib.ro (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h16FwAAP002275; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 17:58:10 +0200 Received: from localhost (catalin@localhost) by arthur.edulib.ro (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) with ESMTP id h16Fw9UV002272; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 17:58:09 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 17:58:09 +0200 (EET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Catalin Braica To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Setting the From: Address In-Reply-To: <436848E5-39EA-11D7-A0DC-000A956665E8@marigoldtech.com> References: <436848E5-39EA-11D7-A0DC-000A956665E8@marigoldtech.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Todd Goldenbaum X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: arthur.edulib.ro: catalin owned process doing -bs X-RAVMilter-Version: 8.3.3(snapshot 20020312) (arthur) X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN |On Thu, 6 Feb 2003, Todd Goldenbaum wrote: |Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 08:47:14 -0700 |From: Todd Goldenbaum |To: Pine Discussion Forum |Subject: Re: Setting the From: Address | | |On Thursday, February 6, 2003, at 08:13 AM, Nancy McGough wrote: | |>> |On Thu, 6 Feb 2003, Nancy McGough wrote: |>> | |>> |This is a very confusing aspect of Pine's user interface and I've |>> |even listed fixing it as my number one Pine wish on my main Pine |>> |page in this section |>> | |>> | Wish #1: Make it Easier to Change the Default From Header |>> | in Unix Pine |>> | |> |> On 6 Feb 2003 Catalin Braica (catalin@edulib.ro) wrote: |>> But you can do that already. |> |> |> Yes, I know and I actually have information about how to do it on |> my site. What I meant by "fixing it" is *fixing Pine's user |> interface* so that people will stop asking this question almost |> every day! | |No doubt, I can see why it gets asked alot-- such an obvoius thing to |add, amazing it's slipped the minds of the pine developers for so long. | :-P | |Thanks for the help. | |Fwiw Catalin, the way you described the solution- making it sound like |it should be obvious- almost sounds like some kind of high satire. ;) :)) Sorry about that. I remembered that I use this feature at home, didn't knew at first how i did set up, then re-made the steps in some sort of logical order, then I thought it was simple, and writing it in reply Also being a bit misled by my English reading skills adding the fact I'm at the end of my working hours today ... Ok, I admit it's not so easy to find it :) Thanks to Nancy McGough for the link, I wish I found it when I was searching for pine setup :( ____________________________________ Catalin Braica catalin.braica AT edulib DOT ro http://www.edulib.ro/~catalin/ From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 00:26:36 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h178QZTk025984; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 00:26:35 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h178QVnO031091 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Fri, 7 Feb 2003 00:26:32 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with SMTP id h178OnDb086472; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 00:24:49 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h178NoCK081042 for ; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 00:23:50 -0800 Received: from mailman.packetdesign.com (dns.packetdesign.net [65.192.41.10]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h178NnM6006675 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 00:23:49 -0800 Received: from packetdesign.com (main-fw-eth1.packetdesign.com [192.168.0.254]) by mailman.packetdesign.com (8.12.6/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h178NdbC095348; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 00:23:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from casner@acm.org) Message-Id: <20030207003827.M6233-100000@oak.packetdesign.com> Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 00:43:20 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Stephen Casner To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Send same message many times In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: casner@packetdesign.com X-To: apu1@weibell.no X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Thu, 6 Feb 2003 apu1@weibell.no wrote: > The drawback with using BCC or LCC, is that some people (e.g. hotmail > users) have spam filters that put bcc-mail in the trash. > > What I would like, is a feature that allows me to enter all addresses in a > To-field or "BTo"-field, if you like, and that Pine send all messages > separately, so that each user only see their own address in the To-field, > and optionally a "Copy sent to:" list of names only in the message body. I've wanted that behavior, too. The mail tool I used way back in the 1970's would do what I consider to be the right thing: when I put multiple names in the bcc field, separate copies of the message should be sent to each recipient showing only that recipient's name in the bcc line and not the others. Then the recipient (and the recipient's spam filter) is not surprised to find a message arriving that is not addressed to the recipient, and the bcc indicates that the recipient's address was not exposed to the people on the To line, either. -- Steve From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 04:17:19 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h17CHHTk002011; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 04:17:17 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h17CHDWb002500 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Fri, 7 Feb 2003 04:17:13 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with SMTP id h17CFJll011756; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 04:15:20 -0800 Received: from mxu5.u.washington.edu (mxu5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.164]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h17CDICK051880 for ; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 04:13:18 -0800 Received: from www.freebsd.cz (www.freebsd.cz [195.113.19.84]) by mxu5.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h17CDEZ8019612 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 04:13:16 -0800 Received: from www.freebsd.cz (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.freebsd.cz (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h17CD9Ru060651 for ; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 13:13:09 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from horcicka@FreeBSD.cz) Received: from localhost (horcicka@localhost) by www.freebsd.cz (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) with ESMTP id h17CD8Pk060647 for ; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 13:13:09 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <20030207130204.Y59963@www.freebsd.cz> Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 13:13:08 +0100 (CET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Martin Horcicka To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Colored Pine with transparent background MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Authentication-Warning: www.freebsd.cz: horcicka owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=III, Probability=3%, Report="SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE, SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, X_AUTH_WARNING" Hi, I use Pine 4.53 on FreeBSD in transparent Xterminal window, but when I try to use color settings in Pine, it always sets the background to a solid color. Is there any way to use just foreground colors with the default (transparent) background? Martin -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 08:49:40 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h17GndTk009139; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 08:49:39 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h17GnYWb009459 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Fri, 7 Feb 2003 08:49:34 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with SMTP id h17Glell025400; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 08:47:40 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h17GkBCK054068 for ; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 08:46:11 -0800 Received: from mxout3.cac.washington.edu (mxout3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.166]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h17Gk9QZ023779 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 08:46:09 -0800 Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.33.9]) by mxout3.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h17Gk8Aa020644 for ; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 08:46:08 -0800 Received: from [128.95.135.3] ([128.95.135.3]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h17Gk8up032688 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 08:46:08 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 08:46:08 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Steve Hubert To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Colored Pine with transparent background In-Reply-To: <20030207130204.Y59963@www.freebsd.cz> References: <20030207130204.Y59963@www.freebsd.cz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: hubert@ndcms.cac.washington.edu X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Fri, 7 Feb 2003, Martin Horcicka wrote: > Is there any way to use just foreground colors with the default > transparent) background? No. Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 08:59:24 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h17GxOTk009510; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 08:59:24 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h17GxJnO011184 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Fri, 7 Feb 2003 08:59:20 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with SMTP id h17Gvfll016872; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 08:57:41 -0800 Received: from mxu7.u.washington.edu (mxu7.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.165]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h17GtpCK049228 for ; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 08:55:51 -0800 Received: from ares.cs.Virginia.EDU (ares.cs.Virginia.EDU [128.143.137.19]) by mxu7.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h17GthHT019063; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 08:55:43 -0800 Received: from arachnion.cs.Virginia.EDU (arachnion.cs.Virginia.EDU [128.143.136.20]) by ares.cs.Virginia.EDU (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.2/UVACS-2000040300) with ESMTP id LAA17602; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 11:55:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (nc2y@localhost) by arachnion.cs.Virginia.EDU (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA03195; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 11:55:41 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 11:55:41 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Nicolas Christin To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Colored Pine with transparent background In-Reply-To: References: <20030207130204.Y59963@www.freebsd.cz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Steve Hubert X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: arachnion.cs.Virginia.EDU: nc2y owned process doing -bs X-X-Sender: nc2y@arachnion.cs.Virginia.EDU X-No-Archive: no X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Fri, 7 Feb 2003, Steve Hubert wrote: > On Fri, 7 Feb 2003, Martin Horcicka wrote: > > > Is there any way to use just foreground colors with the default > > transparent) background? > > No. No, in the sense, "No because it is not implemented", or no, in the sense "No because it is impossible to create such a color pair the way pine assigns colors"? -- Nicolas From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 09:02:37 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h17H2aTk009810; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 09:02:36 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h17H2YWb009916 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Fri, 7 Feb 2003 09:02:34 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with SMTP id h17H0lDb092204; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 09:00:47 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h17GvJCK063738 for ; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 08:57:19 -0800 Received: from www.freebsd.cz (www.freebsd.cz [195.113.19.84]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h17GvDQZ027104 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Fri, 7 Feb 2003 08:57:15 -0800 Received: from www.freebsd.cz (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.freebsd.cz (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h17Gv8Ru070016; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 17:57:08 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from horcicka@FreeBSD.cz) Received: from localhost (horcicka@localhost) by www.freebsd.cz (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) with ESMTP id h17Gv8CB070013; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 17:57:08 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <20030207175311.X59963@www.freebsd.cz> Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 17:57:08 +0100 (CET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Martin Horcicka To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Colored Pine with transparent background In-Reply-To: References: <20030207130204.Y59963@www.freebsd.cz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Steve Hubert X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: www.freebsd.cz: horcicka owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Steve Hubert (2003-02-07 08:46 -0800): > On Fri, 7 Feb 2003, Martin Horcicka wrote: > > > Is there any way to use just foreground colors with the default > > transparent) background? > > No. :-) And is there any chance to get this feature implemented in one of the future versions of Pine? Martin From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 09:07:06 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h17H75Tk010014; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 09:07:05 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h17H71Wb010063 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Fri, 7 Feb 2003 09:07:02 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with SMTP id h17H52Db082952; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 09:05:03 -0800 Received: from mxu7.u.washington.edu (mxu7.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.165]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h17H3OCK054178 for ; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 09:03:24 -0800 Received: from mxout1.cac.washington.edu (mxout1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.134]) by mxu7.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h17H3MHU021166 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 09:03:22 -0800 Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.33.9]) by mxout1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h17H3LJA030494 for ; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 09:03:21 -0800 Received: from [128.95.135.3] ([128.95.135.3]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h17H3Lup001089 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 09:03:21 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 09:03:21 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Steve Hubert To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Colored Pine with transparent background In-Reply-To: References: <20030207130204.Y59963@www.freebsd.cz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: hubert@ndcms.cac.washington.edu X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Fri, 7 Feb 2003, Nicolas Christin wrote: > No, in the sense, "No because it is not implemented", or no, in the > sense "No because it is impossible to create such a color pair the way > pine assigns colors"? I attempted to implement it but ran into problems because of the way pine handles colors and other attributes. Surely it is a Simple Matter of Programming, but the programming does not appear to be straightforward and the time has not been found to do it. It is not currently in the upper half of the list of things to do. Steve From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 10:41:03 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h17If2Tk013830; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 10:41:02 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h17IevWb013189 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Fri, 7 Feb 2003 10:40:57 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with SMTP id h17IdGll017928; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 10:39:16 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.132]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h17IbECK027034 for ; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 10:37:14 -0800 Received: from vax.hanford.org (vax.hanford.org [216.218.218.27]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with SMTP id h17IbCfV015495 for ; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 10:37:13 -0800 Received: (qmail 14178 invoked by uid 1828); 7 Feb 2003 18:37:12 -0000 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 10:37:12 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Matt Ackeret To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: 4.33 crash MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XXXI, Probability=31%, Report="NO_MX_FOR_FROM, RCVD_IN_MULTIHOP_DSBL, RCVD_IN_UNCONFIRMED_DSBL, SIGNATURE_SHORT_SPARSE, SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XXIIIIII, Probability=26%, Report="NO_MX_FOR_FROM, SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE, USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Had this crash this morning starting up pine.. on 4.33.. Then trying to start up pine again, it just spun for a long time opening the INBOX. I had to kill it and remove the Mailbox.lock file to get it to start up again. Is pine supposed to warn about a lock file existing? (gdb) core core Core was generated by `pine'. Program terminated with signal 10, Bus error. Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libxnet.so.1...done. Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libresolv.so.2...done. Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libsocket.so.1...done. Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libnsl.so.1...done. Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libc.so.1...done. Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libdl.so.1...done. Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libmp.so.2...done. Reading symbols from /usr/platform/SUNW,Ultra-1/lib/libc_psr.so.1...done. #0 0xef5c5c84 in _malloc_unlocked () (gdb) bt #0 0xef5c5c84 in _malloc_unlocked () #1 0xef5c5b14 in malloc () #2 0x1ca4d8 in init_stack () #3 0x1ca798 in tparm () #4 0x13e0c0 in moveabsolute () #5 0x13e2b0 in MoveCursor () #6 0x10b82c in blank_keymenu () #7 0x13df00 in end_screen () #8 0x1006bc in panic () #9 0x11ebb0 in auger_in_signal () #10 #11 0xef5c5c84 in _malloc_unlocked () #12 0xef5c5b14 in malloc () #13 0x188000 in fs_get (size=49) at fs_unix.c:30 #14 0x1b0320 in unix_mbxline (stream=0x33b180, bs=0xefffd300, size=0xefffceec) at unix.c:1534 #15 0x1af9a8 in unix_parse (stream=0x33b180, lock=0xefffcef0, op=294907) at unix.c:1424 #16 0x1ac290 in unix_open (stream=0x33b180) at unix.c:408 #17 0x17c9e0 in mail_open (stream=0x33b180, name=0xefffe950 "Mailbox", options=0) at mail.c:999 #18 0x10084c in pine_mail_open () #19 0x65294 in context_open () #20 0xa86d8 in do_broach_folder () #21 0xfbc4c in main () (gdb) -- top-posting: It's just a bad idea. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 12:03:53 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h17K3rTk017335; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 12:03:53 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h17K3onO018014 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Fri, 7 Feb 2003 12:03:51 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with SMTP id h17K1Qll024170; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 12:01:26 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h17JxNCK049152 for ; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 11:59:23 -0800 Received: from ares.cs.Virginia.EDU (ares.cs.Virginia.EDU [128.143.137.19]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h17JxGM5018830; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 11:59:17 -0800 Received: from arachnion.cs.Virginia.EDU (arachnion.cs.Virginia.EDU [128.143.136.20]) by ares.cs.Virginia.EDU (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.2/UVACS-2000040300) with ESMTP id OAA05508; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 14:59:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (nc2y@localhost) by arachnion.cs.Virginia.EDU (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id OAA03398; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 14:59:15 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 14:59:15 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Nicolas Christin To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Colored Pine with transparent background In-Reply-To: References: <20030207130204.Y59963@www.freebsd.cz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Steve Hubert X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: arachnion.cs.Virginia.EDU: nc2y owned process doing -bs X-X-Sender: nc2y@arachnion.cs.Virginia.EDU X-No-Archive: no X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Fri, 7 Feb 2003, Steve Hubert wrote: > On Fri, 7 Feb 2003, Nicolas Christin wrote: > > > No, in the sense, "No because it is not implemented", or no, in the > > sense "No because it is impossible to create such a color pair the way > > pine assigns colors"? > > I attempted to implement it but ran into problems because of the way pine > handles colors and other attributes. Surely it is a Simple Matter of > Programming, but the programming does not appear to be straightforward and > the time has not been found to do it. It is not currently in the upper > half of the list of things to do. That's certainly understandable. The reason I was asking was just so that other people know whether it was doable or not. It probably is, so nothing prevents anyone (meaning, an external contributor) to try and write a patch for pine that does just that. Best, -- Nicolas From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 16:17:47 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h180HkTk026916; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 16:17:46 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h180HgnO026609 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Fri, 7 Feb 2003 16:17:43 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with SMTP id h180Fill005956; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 16:15:44 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h180DaCK057332 for ; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 16:13:36 -0800 Received: from parvati.colorado.edu (parvati.Colorado.EDU [128.138.113.52]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h180DZQY001111 for ; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 16:13:35 -0800 Received: from localhost (dorsey@localhost) by parvati.colorado.edu (8.11.6/8.11.2/ITS-5.0/standard) with ESMTP id h180DYg08989 for ; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 17:13:34 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 17:13:34 -0700 (MST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Susan Dorsey To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Insert message function In-Reply-To: References: <20030207130204.Y59963@www.freebsd.cz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report="IN_REP_TO, RCVD_IN_MULTIHOP_DSBL, RCVD_IN_UNCONFIRMED_DSBL, SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE, SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, USER_AGENT_PINE" Hey, On 4.51 the insert message into another message function (^R ^W msg#) now indents with > by default. This didn't happen in the last version I built, 4.44. Haven't checked 4.53 yet, but soon. Is there a setting to stop this behavior? Not finding anything related to this in Setup Config. Thanks, Susan Susan Dorsey Information Technology Services University of Colorado at Boulder -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 18:17:33 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h182HWTk030470; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 18:17:32 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h182HTnO029943 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Fri, 7 Feb 2003 18:17:29 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with SMTP id h182FrDb083968; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 18:15:53 -0800 Received: from mxu7.u.washington.edu (mxu7.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.165]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h182DrCK081964 for ; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 18:13:53 -0800 Received: from roadrunner.dosland.com (ool-4353d587.dyn.optonline.net [67.83.213.135]) by mxu7.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h182DpHT021550 for ; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 18:13:51 -0800 Received: from tao.agoron.com (andy.dosland.com [192.168.0.5]) by roadrunner.dosland.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id h18292J07146 for ; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 21:09:02 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3E4467E8.AC44435A@tao.agoron.com> Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2003 21:14:00 -0500 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Andy Malato To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: supressing delete message prompt MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Accept-Language: en X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=III, Probability=3%, Report="SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE, SPAM_PHRASE_02_03, X_ACCEPT_LANG, __EVITE_CTYPE" X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=II, Probability=2%, Report="NOSPAM_INC, SPAM_PHRASE_02_03, USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_XM, X_ACCEPT_LANG, __EVITE_CTYPE, __HAS_X_MAILER" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I have a question regarding the monthly prompts I get to delete my old mail folders. Is it possible to surpress this message. I would like to move my sent-mail at the end of each month, but do not wish to be prompted about my old sent-folders. Is this possible? Thanks, ---Andy -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 19:39:37 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h183dbTk032036; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 19:39:37 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h183dTWb029260 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Fri, 7 Feb 2003 19:39:30 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with SMTP id h183ZXDb084050; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 19:35:33 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.132]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h183XZCK050830 for ; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 19:33:35 -0800 Received: from vax.hanford.org (vax.hanford.org [216.218.218.27]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with SMTP id h183XYfV003176 for ; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 19:33:34 -0800 Received: (qmail 20238 invoked by uid 1828); 8 Feb 2003 03:33:33 -0000 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 19:33:33 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Matt Ackeret To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: supressing delete message prompt MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XXXXXI, Probability=51%, Report="NO_MX_FOR_FROM, RCVD_IN_MULTIHOP_DSBL, RCVD_IN_UNCONFIRMED_DSBL, SPAM_PHRASE_03_05, USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XXXIIIIIIIII, Probability=39%, Report="NO_MX_FOR_FROM, SPAM_PHRASE_03_05, USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Fri, 7 Feb 2003, Andy Malato wrote: >I have a question regarding the monthly prompts I get to delete my old mail >folders. Is it possible to surpress this message. I would like to move my >sent-mail at the end of each month, but do not wish to be prompted about my old >sent-folders. Is this possible? Your wish is pine's command. Check the prefs: pruning-rule = Set Rule Values --- ---------------------- ( ) ask about rename, ask about deleting ( ) ask about rename, don't delete (*) always rename, ask about deleting ( ) always rename, don't delete ( ) don't rename, ask about deleting ( ) don't rename, don't delete You want the one below the one I have selected. (Though I always say 'no', so I guess I should probably change that pref too..) From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 19:04:47 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1B34lTk009008; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 19:04:47 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1B34fnO003752 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Mon, 10 Feb 2003 19:04:42 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with SMTP id h1B30Ell024082; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 19:00:14 -0800 Received: from mxu5.u.washington.edu (mxu5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.164]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1B2vmCK041836 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 18:57:48 -0800 Received: from imsmta2 (imsmta2.indosat.net.id [202.155.50.25]) by mxu5.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1B2vjZ7025340 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 18:57:46 -0800 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([202.155.43.68]) by imsmta2.indosat.net.id (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.09 (built Jan 7 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HA40006OJ0688@imsmta2.indosat.net.id> for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Tue, 11 Feb 2003 10:00:06 +0700 (JVT) Received: from odee (odee [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h1B2wmrO000810 for ; Tue, 11 Feb 2003 09:58:49 +0700 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 09:58:48 +0700 (WIT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: David Sudjiman To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Can I import from my outlook express? MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XIIIII, Probability=15%, Report="FORGED_YAHOO_RCVD, SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE, SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIIIII, Probability=9%, Report="FORGED_YAHOO_RCVD, USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi, I just get my laptop back for I haven't use it for 2 months. Back in those time, I was using my outlook express to get my email. Can I have those downloaded email imported to my pine? thx .dave "Who is General Failure and why is he reading my hard disk ?" Microsoft spel chekar vor sail, worgs grate !! (By leitner@inf.fu-berlin.de, Felix von Leitner) -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 11 Feb 2003 05:51:57 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1BDpuTk025438; Tue, 11 Feb 2003 05:51:56 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1BDprnO018415 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Tue, 11 Feb 2003 05:51:53 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with SMTP id h1BDnq09012734; Tue, 11 Feb 2003 05:49:53 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1BDlcCK023200 for ; Tue, 11 Feb 2003 05:47:38 -0800 Received: from barry.mail.mindspring.net (barry.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.25]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1BDlaM5004292 for ; Tue, 11 Feb 2003 05:47:36 -0800 Received: from user-2iveo13.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.247.96.35]) by barry.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 18ial5-00036R-00 for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Tue, 11 Feb 2003 08:47:35 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 08:47:30 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Allen Ziegenfus To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Can I import from my outlook express? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIIII, Probability=8%, Report="IN_REP_TO, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, RCVD_IN_MULTIHOP_DSBL, RCVD_IN_OSIRUSOFT_COM, RCVD_IN_UNCONFIRMED_DSBL, USER_AGENT_PINE, X_OSIRU_DUL, X_OSIRU_DUL_FH" Hello, The Outlook Express .MBX files should be compatible with Pine's mbox format. I tried this before and just copied some .MBX files to my mail directory and Pine found them no problem. I did notice that some control characters seemed to have popped up in some fields, but that was the only problem. Allen On Tue, 11 Feb 2003, David Sudjiman wrote: > Hi, > > I just get my laptop back for I haven't use it for 2 months. Back in > those time, I was using my outlook express to get my email. Can I have > those downloaded email imported to my pine? > > thx > .dave From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 11 Feb 2003 06:05:37 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1BE5aTk025677; Tue, 11 Feb 2003 06:05:36 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1BE5WnO018791 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Tue, 11 Feb 2003 06:05:33 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with SMTP id h1BE3k09017170; Tue, 11 Feb 2003 06:03:46 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1BE1vCK086118 for ; Tue, 11 Feb 2003 06:01:57 -0800 Received: from xbox.wkearney.com (xbox.wkearney.com [66.92.145.79]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1BE1tM5006785 for ; Tue, 11 Feb 2003 06:01:55 -0800 Received: from media (media.wkearney.com [192.168.0.32]) by xbox.wkearney.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with SMTP id h1BE20HY028324 for ; Tue, 11 Feb 2003 09:02:01 -0500 Message-Id: <009701c2d1d6$223d3b80$2000a8c0@wkearney.com> Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 09:01:54 -0500 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Bill Kearney" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Can I import from my outlook express? References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4920.2300 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XXXIII, Probability=33%, Report="FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD, FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS, MSG_ID_ADDED_BY_MTA_3, PRIORITY_NO_NAME, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REFERENCES, __EVITE_CTYPE, __HAS_MIMEOLE, __HAS_MSMAIL_PRI, __HAS_X_PRIORITY" X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XIIIII, Probability=15%, Report="FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD, FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REFERENCES, USER_AGENT_OE, __EVITE_CTYPE, __HAS_MIMEOLE, __HAS_MSMAIL_PRI, __HAS_OUTLOOK_IN_MAILER, __HAS_X_MAILER, __HAS_X_PRIORITY" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Another, and perhaps safer, idea would be to use an IMAP server as a moving point. Connect to the IMAP server via Outlook Express. Create a folder. More if needed. Copy the messages from the local mailbox folder(s) to the new folder(s). Connect to the IMAP server via Pine. Create local folder. More if needed. Move the messages from the IMAP folder(s) to the local folder(s). Note I said "copy" the first time. If something goes wrong you'd at least still have the messages safely stored in the local Outlook Express folders. If you're satisfied that things have worked properly you can always go back and delete them later. I use an Exchange server via IMAP from OE, Outlook, Pine and even some programmed code. It works pretty well and has been very reliable. I've likewise used a uw-imap server for similar purposes and also had great success. Even if you have no need of an IMAP server forever, setting one up for moving messages is easy enough. It's certainly safer that playing "guessing games" with trying to read mailbox files directly. -Bill Kearney ----- Original Message ----- From: "Allen Ziegenfus" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 8:47 AM Subject: Re: Can I import from my outlook express? > Hello, > > The Outlook Express .MBX files should be compatible with Pine's mbox > format. I tried this before and just copied some .MBX files to my > mail directory and Pine found them no problem. I did notice that > some control characters seemed to have popped up in some fields, but > that was the only problem. > > Allen > > On Tue, 11 Feb 2003, David Sudjiman wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I just get my laptop back for I haven't use it for 2 months. Back in > > those time, I was using my outlook express to get my email. Can I have > > those downloaded email imported to my pine? > > > > thx > > .dave From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 11 Feb 2003 13:52:17 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1BLqGTk011925; Tue, 11 Feb 2003 13:52:16 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1BLponO002604 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Tue, 11 Feb 2003 13:51:51 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with SMTP id h1BLnL09010460; Tue, 11 Feb 2003 13:49:22 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1BLkdCK060442 for ; Tue, 11 Feb 2003 13:46:39 -0800 Received: from mxout4.cac.washington.edu (mxout4.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.19]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1BLkbM6022006 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 11 Feb 2003 13:46:38 -0800 Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.33.9]) by mxout4.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1BLkaq6024631; Tue, 11 Feb 2003 13:46:36 -0800 Received: from pigeon.cac.washington.edu (pigeon.cac.washington.edu [128.95.135.112]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1BLkXFl001687 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT); Tue, 11 Feb 2003 13:46:36 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 13:46:32 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Jeff Franklin To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Insert message function In-Reply-To: References: <20030207130204.Y59963@www.freebsd.cz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Susan Dorsey X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Fri, 7 Feb 2003, Susan Dorsey wrote: > Hey, > > On 4.51 the insert message into another message function (^R ^W msg#) now > indents with > by default. This didn't happen in the last version I > built, 4.44. Haven't checked 4.53 yet, but soon. Is there a setting to > stop this behavior? Not finding anything related to this in Setup Config. Hello, Thanks for pointing this out. It is a bug, and will be fixed in 4.54. Jeff From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 11 Feb 2003 22:43:18 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1C6hHTk030821; Tue, 11 Feb 2003 22:43:17 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1C6hDWb012102 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Tue, 11 Feb 2003 22:43:14 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with SMTP id h1C6eujm008158; Tue, 11 Feb 2003 22:40:56 -0800 Received: from mxu5.u.washington.edu (mxu5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.164]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1C6cqCK050028 for ; Tue, 11 Feb 2003 22:38:53 -0800 Received: from rocky.ece.wisc.edu (rocky.ece.wisc.edu [128.104.182.248]) by mxu5.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1C6cpZ7017495 for ; Tue, 11 Feb 2003 22:38:51 -0800 Received: from localhost (benjamin@localhost) by rocky.ece.wisc.edu (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id h1C6cjP04809 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 00:38:46 -0600 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 00:38:45 -0600 (CST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Zeena Benjamin To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Acknowledgement for read emails MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Authentication-Warning: rocky.ece.wisc.edu: benjamin owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XIIIII, Probability=15%, Report="RCVD_IN_MULTIHOP_DSBL, RCVD_IN_UNCONFIRMED_DSBL, SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE, SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, USER_AGENT_PINE, X_AUTH_WARNING" Is it possible to know if the receiver has opened the mail sent by us? Can something be done while sending the mail to know this? Thanx -- "Don't try so hard, the best things come when you least expect them to." ----------------------- Zeena Benjamin ECE Graduate Student 3652 Engineering Hall UW-Madison WI 53706 Ph No: (608) 265 3826 -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 03:14:02 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1CBE1Tk008466; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 03:14:01 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1CBDunO025159 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Wed, 12 Feb 2003 03:13:57 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with SMTP id h1CBC3ll025568; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 03:12:06 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.133]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1CB9XCK050268 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 03:09:33 -0800 Received: from smtp.web.de (smtp03.web.de [217.72.192.158]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1CB9Ukp013593 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 03:09:30 -0800 Received: from [213.6.97.22] (helo=A6116.pppool.de) by smtp.web.de with asmtp (WEB.DE(Exim) 4.95 #31) id 18iuld-00082x-00 for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 12:09:29 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 12:09:26 +0100 (CET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Menge, Oliver" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: password file and two accounts within the same provider MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: Oliver.Menge@web.de X-X-Sender: menge@linux.local X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XII, Probability=12%, Report="RCVD_IN_OSIRUSOFT_COM, SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE, SPAM_PHRASE_01_02, USER_AGENT_PINE, X_OSIRU_DUL, X_OSIRU_DUL_FH" X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XIIIII, Probability=15%, Report="RCVD_IN_OSIRUSOFT_COM, SPAM_PHRASE_01_02, USER_AGENT_PINE, X_OSIRU_DUL, X_OSIRU_DUL_FH" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello together, is this a bug? I use PINE 4.53 on SUSE Linux. By adding the line #define PASSFILE ".pine.pwd" to pine.h I enabled the password saving mechanism which always worked fine. Now I got a second E-Mail Address from the same provider and I want to access both inboxes. Here's a snip from my .pinerc ------------------------------------------------------------------ incoming-folders= om {imap.web.de/ssl/norsh/novalidate-cert/user=Oliver.Menge}inbox, joeit {imap.web.de/ssl/norsh/novalidate-cert/user=joe_om}, ------------------------------------------------------------------ Let's say .pine.pwd exists and is empty and I try to open the 'om'-inbox. Pine asks for the password and whether to store it on disk. If I agree to save it and try later to open the 'joeit'-inbox PINE would always open the om-inbox. A similar effect I have with the smtp-server authentication, as for the address Oliver.Menge@web.de I have to use smtp.web.de/user=Oliver.Menge and for joe_om@web.de I have to use smtp.web.de/user=joe_om. This I set up with different roles. Again if I save the smtp-password for user=Oliver.Menge I won't be able to send with joe_om@web.de. I belive PINE tries to authentivate with Oliver.Menge, but then the from-line with joe_om@web.de is rejected by the smtp-server. Everything goes oppsite, if (starting from an empty .pine.pwd) I save first passwords for joe_om@web.de. Then I'm not able to access my om-inbox neither can I send E-Mails as Oliver.Menge@web.de. Am I clear? Which further information is needed? Thanks a lot, Oliver Menge -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 04:22:55 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1CCMtTk011037; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 04:22:55 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1CCMpnO026946 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Wed, 12 Feb 2003 04:22:51 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with SMTP id h1CCL3jm003896; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 04:21:04 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1CCJ8CK049906 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 04:19:08 -0800 Received: from msgdirector1.onetel.net.uk (msgdirector1.onetel.net.uk [212.67.96.148]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1CCJ3QY019436 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 04:19:04 -0800 Received: from 213-78-92-50.friaco.onetel.net.uk (213-78-92-50.friaco.onetel.net.uk [213.78.92.50]) by msgdirector1.onetel.net.uk (Mirapoint) with ESMTP id APW57522; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 12:18:52 GMT Message-Id: Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 12:19:01 +0000 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Nancy McGough To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: password file and two accounts within the same provider In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Technical Discussion Forum X-Message-Flag: Worried about Outlook viruses? Switch to Mac/Unix/PC Pine! Info @ www.ii.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On 12 Feb 2003 Menge, Oliver (Oliver.Menge@web.de) wrote: > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > incoming-folders= > om {imap.web.de/ssl/norsh/novalidate-cert/user=Oliver.Menge}inbox, > joeit {imap.web.de/ssl/norsh/novalidate-cert/user=joe_om}, > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Let's say .pine.pwd exists and is empty and I try to open the 'om'-inbox. > Pine asks for the password and whether to store it on disk. If I agree to > save it and try later to open the 'joeit'-inbox PINE would always open the > om-inbox. I also have this problem and I posted about it in this comp.mail.pine message It would be great if this were fixed! Thanks, Nancy coming soon: From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 05:25:50 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1CDPnTk012181; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 05:25:49 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1CDPhnO028187 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Wed, 12 Feb 2003 05:25:44 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with SMTP id h1CDNpDb085262; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 05:23:51 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.133]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1CDLlCK062986 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 05:21:47 -0800 Received: from mail.bellhow.com (fw.pqbs.com [63.121.54.5]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1CDLhkp032068 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 05:21:44 -0800 Received: from rfdevel.bellhow.com (rfdevel.bellhow.com [192.168.16.73]) by mail.bellhow.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA15199; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 08:21:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (herrick@localhost) by rfdevel.bellhow.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.3) with ESMTP id IAA22093; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 08:21:36 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 08:21:35 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: daniel lance herrick To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Acknowledgement for read emails In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Zeena Benjamin X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: rfdevel.bellhow.com: herrick owned process doing -bs X-X-Sender: herrick@rfdevel.bellhow.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Wed, 12 Feb 2003, Zeena Benjamin wrote: > Is it possible to know if the receiver has opened the mail sent by us? > Can something be done while sending the mail to know this? > Thanx One of the minor reasons I use pine is that it ignores such requests and does not send such notifications to the person who originated the message. That said, you can use the facilities pine has for adding headers to an outgoing message to copy the Return Receipt Requested header inserted into some e-mail by the Mail User Agents that try to be "the only software you need to automate your office" (ccMail, Lotus Notes, Microsoft Outlook, ...). Then your outgoing mail will request an automated response, and the office automation program whose header you copied will comply with your wishes when someone who uses that e-mail MUA reads your e-mail. People who read your mail with pine will not respond to those requests. In fact, if you copy the Microsoft form of the request, probably people who read your mail with Lotus Notes will not respond to those requests. (And vice versa.) (If you think this message was not really helpful, well, my take on the issue is that I have written a procmail filter to remove those headers from e-mail going to an e-mail discussion list I run. The notifications end up in my box, not the box of the originator of the message. Except for the ones that go to the list, itself.) dan From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 05:37:16 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1CDbFTk012424; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 05:37:15 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1CDbBnO028411 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Wed, 12 Feb 2003 05:37:12 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with SMTP id h1CDZ6ll024256; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 05:35:07 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1CDXACK073474 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 05:33:10 -0800 Received: from xbox.wkearney.com (xbox.wkearney.com [66.92.145.79]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1CDX8M5028173 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 05:33:09 -0800 Received: from media (media.wkearney.com [192.168.0.32]) by xbox.wkearney.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with SMTP id h1CDXFHY013222 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 08:33:15 -0500 Message-Id: <02b001c2d29b$47b085f0$2000a8c0@wkearney.com> Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 08:33:07 -0500 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Bill Kearney" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Acknowledgement for read emails References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4920.2300 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XXXXIIIIIII, Probability=47%, Report="FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD, FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS, MSG_ID_ADDED_BY_MTA_3, PRIORITY_NO_NAME, REFERENCES, SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, __EVITE_CTYPE, __HAS_MIMEOLE, __HAS_MSMAIL_PRI, __HAS_X_PRIORITY" X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XXXII, Probability=32%, Report="FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD, FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS, REFERENCES, SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, USER_AGENT_OE, __EVITE_CTYPE, __HAS_MIMEOLE, __HAS_MSMAIL_PRI, __HAS_OUTLOOK_IN_MAILER, __HAS_X_MAILER, __HAS_X_PRIORITY" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN As Daniel points out a great many programs do not support 'return receipt' messages. In addition, some servers (like Exchange) have the ability to /block/ such receipts regardless of what the client program wants to do. So even if they want to leave their client program set to return receipts the server may not pass them. If you want someone to respond then ask them. If you don't have a relationship that lends itself to open communication you have a bigger problem than a mail client is going to solve. -Bill Kearney From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 10:49:57 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1CInuTk023368; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 10:49:56 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1CInqnO006203 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Wed, 12 Feb 2003 10:49:53 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with SMTP id h1CIlh09031512; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 10:47:43 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1CIjcCK050326 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 10:45:39 -0800 Received: from vax.hanford.org (vax.hanford.org [216.218.218.27]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with SMTP id h1CIjbM5024914 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 10:45:37 -0800 Received: (qmail 16507 invoked by uid 1828); 12 Feb 2003 18:45:36 -0000 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 10:45:36 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Matt Ackeret To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Acknowledgement for read emails In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XXIIIIIIII, Probability=28%, Report="IN_REP_TO, NO_MX_FOR_FROM, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, RCVD_IN_MULTIHOP_DSBL, RCVD_IN_UNCONFIRMED_DSBL, USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=X, Probability=10%, Report="IN_REP_TO, NO_MX_FOR_FROM, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Wed, 12 Feb 2003, daniel lance herrick wrote: >On Wed, 12 Feb 2003, Zeena Benjamin wrote: > >> Is it possible to know if the receiver has opened the mail sent by us? >> Can something be done while sending the mail to know this? >> Thanx > >One of the minor reasons I use pine is that it ignores such requests and does >not send such notifications to the person who originated the message. I think a nicer response is that there's no uniformly followed policy for return receipts for Internet email. (That's allowing me a little bit of leeway because I think some of the headers mentioned _are_ in one of the RFCs, but they weren't there from day 1, and are thus not supported by many/most sites.) This is actually one of the things I miss most from QuickMail, an otherwise utterly horrid (I even thought so at the time) proprietary email system we used to use at work long long ago. -- top-posting: It's just a bad idea. From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 12:48:06 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1CKm5Tk029207; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 12:48:05 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1CKlvnO010940 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Wed, 12 Feb 2003 12:47:57 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with SMTP id h1CKhIDb078774; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 12:43:19 -0800 Received: from mxu5.u.washington.edu (mxu5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.164]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1CKfqCK085480 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 12:41:52 -0800 Received: from server1.shellworld.net (server1.shellworld.net [64.39.15.178]) by mxu5.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1CKfoZ8014806 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 12:41:51 -0800 Received: from localhost (fairall@localhost) by server1.shellworld.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id h1CKfmR49464; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 14:41:48 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from fairall@ns.shellworld.net) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 15:41:48 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Leslie Fairall To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Acknowledgement for read emails In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Zeena Benjamin X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: fairall@server1.shellworld.net X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XXXXIII, Probability=43%, Report="IN_REP_TO, NO_MX_FOR_FROM, RCVD_IN_MULTIHOP_DSBL, RCVD_IN_UNCONFIRMED_DSBL, REFERENCES, SPAM_PHRASE_08_13, USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XXIIIIIIIII, Probability=29%, Report="IN_REP_TO, NO_MX_FOR_FROM, REFERENCES, SPAM_PHRASE_08_13, USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi Zena and all: There are two methods you can use to request a return receipt. The first is to change a setting in your pine configuration. From the main menu, type s for setup and c for configure. Type a control-w to search for the customized-hdrs field. Hit c to change and type the following: Return-Receipt-To: benjamin@ece.wisc.edu (or any other email address you might use). You can also only request a return receipt for certain individuals that you want to make sure they receive your correspondence. When you are composing a new message, type a control-r in the to: field. Go down to the Return-R: field and type in your email address and press enter. This field is already filled in if you use the customized-hdrs field in pine's configuration settings. Hope this helps. From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 09:37:10 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1DHb8Tk001062; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 09:37:08 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1DHb5Wb004785 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Thu, 13 Feb 2003 09:37:05 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with SMTP id h1DHZBDb004326; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 09:35:11 -0800 Received: from mxu5.u.washington.edu (mxu5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.164]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1DHY3h4014220 for ; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 09:34:03 -0800 Received: from christina.datohosting.be (christina.datohosting.be [213.193.225.81]) by mxu5.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1DHXxZ8018584 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 09:34:01 -0800 Received: from christina.datohosting.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by christina.datohosting.be (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h1DHXr2V009462 for ; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 18:33:53 +0100 Received: from localhost (genesis@localhost) by christina.datohosting.be (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) with ESMTP id h1DHXqKJ009458 for ; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 18:33:52 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 18:33:52 +0100 (CET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Frederik Vervaet To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Display problem. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Authentication-Warning: christina.datohosting.be: genesis owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN After having sent this to the comp.mail.pine newsgroup and having had 0 replies I though I'd try this list. I have the following problem : http://frederik.datohosting.be/images/pine.png http://frederik.datohosting.be/images/pine2.png (i blanked out ips/emails) As you can see SOME mails will show up without subject/to stuff. I've tried pretty much every setting i can think of. This only started happening recently. (I think it started when i upgraded to 4.53 sitewide). Any help would be appreciated since theg newsgroup was no help at all :p. I'd hate to have to force clients to use mutt considering how much i like Pine :p -- Frederik Vervaet We, the unwilling, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have done so much, for so long, with so little, we are now qualified to do anything with nothing. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 09:44:05 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1DHi4Tk001446; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 09:44:04 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1DHi0Wb005119 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Thu, 13 Feb 2003 09:44:01 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with SMTP id h1DHgG09031124; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 09:42:16 -0800 Received: from mxu5.u.washington.edu (mxu5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.164]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1DHfwh4015896 for ; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 09:41:58 -0800 Received: from xbox.wkearney.com (xbox.wkearney.com [66.92.145.79]) by mxu5.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1DHfuZ7021340 for ; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 09:41:56 -0800 Received: from media (media.wkearney.com [192.168.0.32]) by xbox.wkearney.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with SMTP id h1DHg1oc021182; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 12:42:01 -0500 Message-Id: <00ae01c2d387$32362490$2000a8c0@wkearney.com> Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 12:41:52 -0500 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Bill Kearney" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Display problem. References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: "Frederik Vervaet" , "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4920.2300 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XXXIIIII, Probability=35%, Report="FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD, FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS, MSG_ID_ADDED_BY_MTA_3, PRIORITY_NO_NAME, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REFERENCES, SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE, SPAM_PHRASE_01_02, __EVITE_CTYPE, __HAS_MIMEOLE, __HAS_MSMAIL_PRI, __HAS_X_PRIORITY" X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XXIIII, Probability=24%, Report="FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD, FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REFERENCES, SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, USER_AGENT_OE, __EVITE_CTYPE, __HAS_MIMEOLE, __HAS_MSMAIL_PRI, __HAS_OUTLOOK_IN_MAILER, __HAS_X_MAILER, __HAS_X_PRIORITY" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN What's sending those funky looking From: addresses? It looks like Outlook Express but I've got to wonder what put those odd strings into it's addressbook. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frederik Vervaet" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 12:33 PM Subject: Display problem. > After having sent this to the comp.mail.pine newsgroup and having had 0 > replies I though I'd try this list. > > I have the following problem : > > http://frederik.datohosting.be/images/pine.png > http://frederik.datohosting.be/images/pine2.png (i blanked out ips/emails) > > As you can see SOME mails will show up without subject/to stuff. > > I've tried pretty much every setting i can think of. This only started > happening recently. (I think it started when i upgraded to 4.53 sitewide). > > Any help would be appreciated since theg newsgroup was no help at all :p. > > I'd hate to have to force clients to use mutt considering how much i like > Pine :p > > -- > Frederik Vervaet > > We, the unwilling, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the > ungrateful. We have done so much, for so long, with so little, we are now > qualified to do anything with nothing. > > -- > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ > ----------------------------------------------------------------- -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 09:52:45 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1DHqiTk002078; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 09:52:44 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1DHqZWb005480 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Thu, 13 Feb 2003 09:52:39 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with SMTP id h1DHolDb092388; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 09:50:47 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.133]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1DHo8h4024502 for ; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 09:50:08 -0800 Received: from christina.datohosting.be (christina.datohosting.be [213.193.225.81]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1DHo5kq012380 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 09:50:06 -0800 Received: from christina.datohosting.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by christina.datohosting.be (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h1DHnx2V011571 for ; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 18:49:59 +0100 Received: from localhost (genesis@localhost) by christina.datohosting.be (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) with ESMTP id h1DHnvWg011567 for ; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 18:49:58 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 18:49:57 +0100 (CET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Frederik Vervaet To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Display problem. In-Reply-To: <00ae01c2d387$32362490$2000a8c0@wkearney.com> References: <00ae01c2d387$32362490$2000a8c0@wkearney.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Authentication-Warning: christina.datohosting.be: genesis owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Thu, 13 Feb 2003, Bill Kearney wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Frederik Vervaet" > To: "Pine Discussion Forum" > Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 12:33 PM > Subject: Display problem. > > > > After having sent this to the comp.mail.pine newsgroup and having had 0 > > replies I though I'd try this list. > > > > I have the following problem : > > > > http://frederik.datohosting.be/images/pine.png > > http://frederik.datohosting.be/images/pine2.png (i blanked out ips/emails) > > > > As you can see SOME mails will show up without subject/to stuff. > > > > I've tried pretty much every setting i can think of. This only started > > happening recently. (I think it started when i upgraded to 4.53 sitewide). > > > > Any help would be appreciated since theg newsgroup was no help at all :p. > > > > I'd hate to have to force clients to use mutt considering how much i like > > Pine :p > > > > What's sending those funky looking From: addresses? It looks like Outlook > Express but I've got to wonder what put those odd strings into it's addressbook. > You know I had a lot of those funky replies. I then changed my character setting to the setting that was infront of those from replies. Most of those from's then turned normal. However a number of them stayed. The amount of "hidden" mails however stayed the same. So other than removing the odd stuff from a few from headers the change of the character setting didn't do much. This is the current setting : character-set = iso-8859-1 The problem i'm currently haven't isn't restricted to outlook express. X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.8 (1.0.8-10) I have the same problem with mails from a friend that's using this client. I can post a screenshot of the headers if you want them. PS : Mr Kearny : Sorry for the double post. I'm on a laptop atm and I pressed the wrong key combo (damn keyboard is smaller :p) -- Frederik Vervaet We, the unwilling, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have done so much, for so long, with so little, we are now qualified to do anything with nothing. From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 10:15:41 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1DIFfTk003138; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 10:15:41 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1DIFcnO013663 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Thu, 13 Feb 2003 10:15:38 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with SMTP id h1DIDCDb087304; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 10:13:12 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.132]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1DICfh4023386 for ; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 10:12:41 -0800 Received: from xbox.wkearney.com (xbox.wkearney.com [66.92.145.79]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1DICdfV010691 for ; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 10:12:39 -0800 Received: from media (media.wkearney.com [192.168.0.32]) by xbox.wkearney.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with SMTP id h1DICioc021257; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 13:12:44 -0500 Message-Id: <00c901c2d38b$7cf808a0$2000a8c0@wkearney.com> Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 13:12:36 -0500 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Bill Kearney" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Display problem. References: <00ae01c2d387$32362490$2000a8c0@wkearney.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: "Frederik Vervaet" , "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4920.2300 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XXXIIIIIIII, Probability=38%, Report="FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD, FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS, MSG_ID_ADDED_BY_MTA_3, PRIORITY_NO_NAME, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REFERENCES, SPAM_PHRASE_01_02, __EVITE_CTYPE, __HAS_MIMEOLE, __HAS_MSMAIL_PRI, __HAS_X_PRIORITY" X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XXI, Probability=21%, Report="FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD, FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REFERENCES, SPAM_PHRASE_01_02, USER_AGENT_OE, __EVITE_CTYPE, __HAS_MIMEOLE, __HAS_MSMAIL_PRI, __HAS_OUTLOOK_IN_MAILER, __HAS_X_MAILER, __HAS_X_PRIORITY" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN > You know I had a lot of those funky replies. I then changed my character > setting to the setting that was infront of those from replies. Most of > those from's then turned normal. However a number of them stayed. The > amount of "hidden" mails however stayed the same. So other than removing > the odd stuff from a few from headers the change of the character setting > didn't do much. > > This is the current setting : > character-set = iso-8859-1 > The problem i'm currently haven't isn't restricted to outlook express. > X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.8 (1.0.8-10) > I have the same problem with mails from a friend that's using this client. > I can post a screenshot of the headers if you want them. > PS : Mr Kearny : Sorry for the double post. I'm on a laptop atm and I > pressed the wrong key combo (damn keyboard is smaller :p) No problem. Character encoding is a tricky process and few developers seem to understand it properly. It's often made worse by a program assuming it's one form of encoding while including another. As in, it claims to be UTF-8 but is really ISO-8859-1 or vice versa. I've had lots of trouble with this in XML applications because of developer ignorance/naivete. -Bill Kearney From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 10:43:29 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1DIhSTk004623; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 10:43:28 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1DIhInO014750 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Thu, 13 Feb 2003 10:43:18 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with SMTP id h1DIfODb090120; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 10:41:24 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1DIekh4018378 for ; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 10:40:46 -0800 Received: from mxout5.cac.washington.edu (mxout5.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.135]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1DIedQZ016283 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 10:40:39 -0800 Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.32.139]) by mxout5.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1DIeZFR021824; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 10:40:35 -0800 Received: from pigeon.cac.washington.edu (pigeon.cac.washington.edu [128.95.135.112]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1DIeTZI013331 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT); Thu, 13 Feb 2003 10:40:35 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 10:40:29 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Jeff Franklin To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Display problem. In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Frederik Vervaet X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Thu, 13 Feb 2003, Frederik Vervaet wrote: > After having sent this to the comp.mail.pine newsgroup and having had 0 > replies I though I'd try this list. > > I have the following problem : > > http://frederik.datohosting.be/images/pine.png > http://frederik.datohosting.be/images/pine2.png (i blanked out ips/emails) > > As you can see SOME mails will show up without subject/to stuff. We've seen this recently in cases where a Unicode terminal is being used. This was first brought to our attention by people who had set up their environments to be Unicode under Redhat 8.0. In the cases we saw, the blank lines were lines that had some sort of non-ASCII character to be displayed. One of the reasons for this problem is that Pine doesn't yet support Unicode, but there does also seem to be some inconsitencies with glibc and its use of sprintf. When tinkering around with this Unicode mode under Redhat 7.3, I also observed that man and less had similar problems. As for a fix, you can remove the call to setlocale(LC_CTYPE, ""); on line 3747 in file pico/osdep/unix and rebuild. The problem will likely go away, and there likely won't be any problems to spring up as a result of changing that. setlocale() is a function that looks at various environment variables to determine the locale, so changing those variables (redhat changes them from some sort of system prerences setting) might also fix things. The $LANG variable is the one that setlocale usually depends on, and you can override specific behavior by setting other variables (see the setlocale man page, for instance, you can override LC_CTYPE behavior by setting an LC_CTYPE variable, and that would also "fix" things without having to patch pine). My LANG variable is set to en_US.iso885915, the setting I used to reproduce the problem was en_GB.UTF-8. Hopefully some of the information I've thrown at you is of use. You can also check out the Redhat Bugzilla report of this bug at https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=70518. I'm not sure if this problem is specific to Redhat distributions, but we are considering adding Unicode support (no small undertaking) in pine, which would permanently fix the problem. Jeff From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 11:15:22 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1DJFKTk006268; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 11:15:20 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1DJFHWb008803 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Thu, 13 Feb 2003 11:15:17 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with SMTP id h1DJClll009782; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 11:12:48 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.132]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1DJCDh4017310 for ; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 11:12:13 -0800 Received: from christina.datohosting.be (christina.datohosting.be [213.193.225.81]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1DJCBfW000360 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 11:12:12 -0800 Received: from christina.datohosting.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by christina.datohosting.be (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h1DJC92V012618 for ; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 20:12:10 +0100 Received: from localhost (genesis@localhost) by christina.datohosting.be (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) with ESMTP id h1DJC8fP012614 for ; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 20:12:09 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 20:12:08 +0100 (CET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Frederik Vervaet To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Display problem. In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: christina.datohosting.be: genesis owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Thu, 13 Feb 2003, Jeff Franklin wrote: > On Thu, 13 Feb 2003, Frederik Vervaet wrote: > > > After having sent this to the comp.mail.pine newsgroup and having had 0 > > replies I though I'd try this list. > > > > I have the following problem : > > > > http://frederik.datohosting.be/images/pine.png > > http://frederik.datohosting.be/images/pine2.png (i blanked out ips/emails) > > > > As you can see SOME mails will show up without subject/to stuff. > > As for a fix, you can remove the call to setlocale(LC_CTYPE, ""); on line > 3747 in file pico/osdep/unix and rebuild. The problem will likely go > away, and there likely won't be any problems to spring up as a result of > changing that. setlocale() is a function that looks at various > environment variables to determine the locale, so changing those variables > (redhat changes them from some sort of system prerences setting) might > also fix things. The $LANG variable is the one that setlocale usually > depends on, and you can override specific behavior by setting other > variables (see the setlocale man page, for instance, you can override > LC_CTYPE behavior by setting an LC_CTYPE variable, and that would also > "fix" things without having to patch pine). My LANG variable is set to > en_US.iso885915, the setting I used to reproduce the problem was > en_GB.UTF-8. Thanks. I fixed it by changing the LANG variable to your setting. Will change the systemwide setting lateron :p Thanks guys for this fix. Would it be possible to add this to the PINE faq on the site ? Considering many redhat systems have this bug I imagine a lot of users might be affected by it. > Hopefully some of the information I've thrown at you is of use. You can > also check out the Redhat Bugzilla report of this bug at > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=70518. I'm not sure > if this problem is specific to Redhat distributions, but we are > considering adding Unicode support (no small undertaking) in pine, which > would permanently fix the problem. I hope you do. Sofar this problem has been the only negative point I've found in pine. > Jeff > -- Frederik Vervaet -The Lean Mean Mailing Machine We, the unwilling, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have done so much, for so long, with so little, we are now qualified to do anything with nothing. From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 12:52:49 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1DKqmTk010156; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 12:52:48 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1DKqinO019750 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Thu, 13 Feb 2003 12:52:45 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with SMTP id h1DKosjm008018; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 12:50:54 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.132]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1DKo5h4018884 for ; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 12:50:05 -0800 Received: from obelix.spectraweb.ch (smtp.plusnet.ch [194.158.230.8]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1DKo0fV002673 for ; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 12:50:01 -0800 Received: from petertosh (pop-ls-8-1-dialup-189.freesurf.ch [194.230.243.189]) by obelix.spectraweb.ch (8.11.2/8.9.3/SuSE Linux 8.9.3-0.1) with ESMTP id h1DKnqb09519 for ; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 21:49:52 +0100 Received: from tpo2 (helo=localhost) by petertosh with local-esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18jQIv-0008PC-00 for ; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 21:49:57 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 21:49:57 +0100 (CET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: tomas pospisek To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Display problem. In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: tpo2@petertosh X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Thu, 13 Feb 2003, Jeff Franklin wrote: > I'm not sure if this problem is specific to Redhat distributions, but > we are considering adding Unicode support (no small undertaking) in > pine, which would permanently fix the problem. I can't find no words for how much this would fill me with joy. At __least__ being able to read emails from my czech and swiss contacts in one session. Phew, would that be ****nice**** ... *t -- will kill for oil From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 13:04:44 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1DL4hTk010638; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 13:04:43 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1DL4dWb012810 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Thu, 13 Feb 2003 13:04:39 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with SMTP id h1DL2mjm004058; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 13:02:49 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.132]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1DL2Hh4018664 for ; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 13:02:17 -0800 Received: from fourier.sag.gwu.edu (fourier.sag.gwu.edu [128.164.127.73]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1DL2DfV006668 for ; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 13:02:13 -0800 Received: from fuchs.sag.gwu.edu (fuchs.sag.gwu.edu [192.168.61.126]) by fourier.sag.gwu.edu (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.4.0.2000.05.17.04.13.p6) with ESMTP id <0HA900HILMF9EH@fourier.sag.gwu.edu> for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 16:01:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from fermi.nit.gwu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fuchs.sag.gwu.edu (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id h1DKwFK12873 for ; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 15:58:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from acad1 (acad.gwu.edu [128.164.127.128]) by fermi.nit.gwu.edu (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id h1DL1dBI029829 for ; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 16:01:39 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 16:01:57 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Jeff Baxter To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Stripping attachments for sent-mail... In-Reply-To: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: jbaxter@acad1 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi all - Is there any way to strip attachments when the message is being written to my sent-mail folder? I use Pine on a UNIX system, connecting to a different IMAP system. I obviously want the attachment to go out on the SMTP message to my recipient, but I don't want to have to send a copy via IMAP to my sent-mail folder. First off, it wastes time waiting for it get there, and second, it just wastes disk space... I already have the attachment, so I really just want a record of when I sent the message, what text was in the message, and possibly what attachments were there, but *not* the actual attachments. As it is right now, I'm going into my sent-mail after sending large e-mails, going into the attachment view, deleting the attachment and re-saving to the same folder. That's tedious... To be honest, I doubt this is possible to do automatically (without patching), and I couldn't see any obvious way to do it, but it sure would be nice. Thanks! Jeff Baxter Information Systems and Services George Washington University -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 14:18:27 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1DMINTk013654; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 14:18:23 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1DMIKnO023032 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Thu, 13 Feb 2003 14:18:20 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with SMTP id h1DMGWjm004966; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 14:16:32 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.132]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1DMEVh4028984 for ; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 14:14:31 -0800 Received: from christina.datohosting.be (christina.datohosting.be [213.193.225.81]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1DMEPfW032649 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 14:14:26 -0800 Received: from christina.datohosting.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by christina.datohosting.be (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h1DMEM2V014686; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 23:14:22 +0100 Received: from localhost (genesis@localhost) by christina.datohosting.be (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) with ESMTP id h1DMEKCB014682; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 23:14:21 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 23:14:20 +0100 (CET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Frederik Vervaet To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Stripping attachments for sent-mail... In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Jeff Baxter X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: christina.datohosting.be: genesis owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Thu, 13 Feb 2003, Jeff Baxter wrote: > > Hi all - > > Is there any way to strip attachments when the message is being written > to my sent-mail folder? > > I use Pine on a UNIX system, connecting to a different IMAP system. I > obviously want the attachment to go out on the SMTP message to my > recipient, but I don't want to have to send a copy via IMAP to my > sent-mail folder. First off, it wastes time waiting for it get there, and > second, it just wastes disk space... > > I already have the attachment, so I really just want a record of when I > sent the message, what text was in the message, and possibly what > attachments were there, but *not* the actual attachments. > > As it is right now, I'm going into my sent-mail after sending large > e-mails, going into the attachment view, deleting the attachment and > re-saving to the same folder. That's tedious... > > To be honest, I doubt this is possible to do automatically (without > patching), and I couldn't see any obvious way to do it, but it sure would > be nice. > > Thanks! > > Jeff Baxter > Information Systems and Services > George Washington University Afaik the message gets FCC'ed to your send mail folder. One of the Features in the config screen is [EXTRACT FROM HELP] FEATURE: fcc-without-attachments This features controls the way FCC's (File Carbon Copies) are made of the messages you send. Normally, Pine saves an exact copy of your message as it was sent. When this feature is enabled, the "body" of the message you send (the text you type in the composer) is preserved in the copy as before, however all attachments are replaced with text explaining what had been sent rather than the attachments themselves. [/EXTRACT FROM HELP] Unless I misunderstood this does exactly what you wanted ? -- Frederik Vervaet -The Lean Mean Mailing Machine We, the unwilling, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have done so much, for so long, with so little, we are now qualified to do anything with nothing. From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 14:22:42 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1DMMfTk013839; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 14:22:41 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1DMMbnO023182 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Thu, 13 Feb 2003 14:22:38 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with SMTP id h1DMLEjm057370; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 14:21:14 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.133]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1DMJah4014786 for ; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 14:19:36 -0800 Received: from fourier.sag.gwu.edu (fourier.sag.gwu.edu [128.164.127.73]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1DMJYkp010088 for ; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 14:19:34 -0800 Received: from fuchs.sag.gwu.edu (fuchs.sag.gwu.edu [192.168.61.126]) by fourier.sag.gwu.edu (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.4.0.2000.05.17.04.13.p6) with ESMTP id <0HA900M02Q0HSH@fourier.sag.gwu.edu> for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 17:19:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from fermi.nit.gwu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fuchs.sag.gwu.edu (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id h1DMFiV25929; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 17:15:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from acad1 (acad.gwu.edu [128.164.127.128]) by fermi.nit.gwu.edu (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id h1DMJBBI001429; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 17:19:11 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 17:19:27 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Jeff Baxter To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Stripping attachments for sent-mail... In-Reply-To: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-To: Frederik Vervaet X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: jbaxter@acad1 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I feel like a complete idiot. Thanks so much for pointing that out, my eyes must have just skipped right over it. Every time I think I've found something that Pine doesn't do, I'm proven wrong... hehehe... Thanks! Jeff Baxter Information Systems and Services George Washington University On Thu, 13 Feb 2003, Frederik Vervaet wrote: > On Thu, 13 Feb 2003, Jeff Baxter wrote: > > > > > Hi all - > > > > Is there any way to strip attachments when the message is being written > > to my sent-mail folder? > > > > I use Pine on a UNIX system, connecting to a different IMAP system. I > > obviously want the attachment to go out on the SMTP message to my > > recipient, but I don't want to have to send a copy via IMAP to my > > sent-mail folder. First off, it wastes time waiting for it get there, and > > second, it just wastes disk space... > > > > I already have the attachment, so I really just want a record of when I > > sent the message, what text was in the message, and possibly what > > attachments were there, but *not* the actual attachments. > > > > As it is right now, I'm going into my sent-mail after sending large > > e-mails, going into the attachment view, deleting the attachment and > > re-saving to the same folder. That's tedious... > > > > To be honest, I doubt this is possible to do automatically (without > > patching), and I couldn't see any obvious way to do it, but it sure would > > be nice. > > > > Thanks! > > > > Jeff Baxter > > Information Systems and Services > > George Washington University > > Afaik the message gets FCC'ed to your send mail folder. > One of the Features in the config screen is > > [EXTRACT FROM HELP] > > FEATURE: fcc-without-attachments > > This features controls the way FCC's (File Carbon Copies) are made of the > messages you send. > > Normally, Pine saves an exact copy of your message as it was sent. When > this feature is enabled, the "body" of the message you send (the text you > type in the composer) is preserved in the copy as before, however all > attachments are replaced with text explaining what had been sent rather > than the attachments themselves. > > [/EXTRACT FROM HELP] > > Unless I misunderstood this does exactly what you wanted ? > > -- > Frederik Vervaet > -The Lean Mean Mailing Machine > > We, the unwilling, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the > ungrateful. We have done so much, for so long, with so little, we are now > qualified to do anything with nothing. > > From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 14:32:07 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1DMW6Tk014266; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 14:32:07 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1DMW3nO023465 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Thu, 13 Feb 2003 14:32:04 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with SMTP id h1DMTc09010434; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 14:29:39 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.132]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1DMRhh4021910 for ; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 14:27:43 -0800 Received: from christina.datohosting.be (christina.datohosting.be [213.193.225.81]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1DMRefW005051 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 14:27:41 -0800 Received: from christina.datohosting.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by christina.datohosting.be (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h1DMRb2V014827; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 23:27:38 +0100 Received: from localhost (genesis@localhost) by christina.datohosting.be (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) with ESMTP id h1DMRamC014823; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 23:27:36 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 23:27:36 +0100 (CET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Frederik Vervaet To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Stripping attachments for sent-mail... In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Jeff Baxter X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: christina.datohosting.be: genesis owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Thu, 13 Feb 2003, Jeff Baxter wrote: > > I feel like a complete idiot. Thanks so much for pointing that out, my > eyes must have just skipped right over it. > > Every time I think I've found something that Pine doesn't do, I'm proven > wrong... hehehe... > > Thanks! > > Jeff Baxter > Information Systems and Services > George Washington University > I know the feeling :p Can't count the times the fix was right in front of me but I was just too tired/annoyed/bored to notice it :p -- Frederik Vervaet -The Lean Mean Mailing Machine We, the unwilling, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have done so much, for so long, with so little, we are now qualified to do anything with nothing. From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 14:47:52 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1DMlpTk014957; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 14:47:51 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1DMlinO024022 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Thu, 13 Feb 2003 14:47:45 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with SMTP id h1DMk3jm021198; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 14:46:04 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1DMgjh4029012 for ; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 14:42:45 -0800 Received: from george.he.net (george.he.net [216.218.157.2]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1DMgiQY001392 for ; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 14:42:44 -0800 Received: from localhost (wiliweld@localhost) by george.he.net (8.8.6/8.8.2) with ESMTP id OAA27145 for ; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 14:42:46 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 14:42:46 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Bill Schoolcraft To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Default login name vs user name? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion X-Sender: wiliweld@george.he.net X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XXIIIIIII, Probability=27%, Report="MSG_ID_ADDED_BY_MTA_3, RCVD_IN_MULTIHOP_DSBL, RCVD_IN_UNCONFIRMED_DSBL, SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE, SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, USER_AGENT_PINE" Hello Family, I been using Unix boxes with my login name of "bill" and the Pine From: address would show my email as being sent from "bill@wiliweld.com" Now I'm on a machine that has the user account of "wiliweld" and the From: field will state "wiliweld@wiliweld.com" unless I catch it in time. It's led to numerous bounces on mailing lists where I'm recognized as "bill@wiliweld.com" I have a feeling this is a no-brainer but I can't see the immediate fix hence my question. Thanks. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 15:08:14 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1DN8DTk015779; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 15:08:13 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1DN89nO024778 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Thu, 13 Feb 2003 15:08:10 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with SMTP id h1DN6Nll028632; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 15:06:23 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1DN5eh4017950 for ; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 15:05:40 -0800 Received: from mxout5.cac.washington.edu (mxout5.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.135]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1DN5cQZ008631 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 15:05:38 -0800 Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.33.9]) by mxout5.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1DN5cFR007160 for ; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 15:05:38 -0800 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (shiva1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.201]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1DN5bFl031207 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 15:05:37 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 15:05:37 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Steve Hubert To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: password file and two accounts within the same provider In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: hubert@shiva1.cac.washington.edu X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Yes, it is a bug. If you use pine from sources, here is a patch. It will be in the next version of pine. Thanks to Oliver and Nancy for the precise descriptions of the problem. Steve Hubert There is a missing left paren in the first different line and a missing right paren in the second line. *** imap.c.old Thu Feb 13 14:58:25 2003 --- imap.c.new Thu Feb 13 14:59:13 2003 *************** *** 866,891 **** return; } #endif /* * If no explicit user name supplied and we've not logged in * with our local user name, see if we've visited this * host before as someone else. */ if(!*mb->user && ! (last = imap_get_user(mm_login_list, hostlist)) #ifdef PASSFILE || (last = get_passfile_user(ps_global->pinerc, hostlist)) #endif ! ){ strncpy(user, last, NETMAXUSER); dprint(9, (debugfile, "mm_login: found user=%s\n", user)); /* try last working password associated with this host/user. */ if(imap_get_passwd(mm_login_list, pwd, user, hostlist, (mb->sslflag||mb->tlsflag))){ dprint(9, (debugfile, "mm_login: found a password for user=%s to try\n", user)); return; } --- 866,891 ---- return; } #endif /* * If no explicit user name supplied and we've not logged in * with our local user name, see if we've visited this * host before as someone else. */ if(!*mb->user && ! ((last = imap_get_user(mm_login_list, hostlist)) #ifdef PASSFILE || (last = get_passfile_user(ps_global->pinerc, hostlist)) #endif ! )){ strncpy(user, last, NETMAXUSER); dprint(9, (debugfile, "mm_login: found user=%s\n", user)); /* try last working password associated with this host/user. */ if(imap_get_passwd(mm_login_list, pwd, user, hostlist, (mb->sslflag||mb->tlsflag))){ dprint(9, (debugfile, "mm_login: found a password for user=%s to try\n", user)); return; } From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 17:21:21 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1E1LKTk021135; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 17:21:20 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1E1LGWb021865 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Thu, 13 Feb 2003 17:21:16 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with SMTP id h1E1JbDb023934; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 17:19:37 -0800 Received: from mxu7.u.washington.edu (mxu7.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.165]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1E1Iqh4016876 for ; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 17:18:52 -0800 Received: from server1.shellworld.net (server1.shellworld.net [64.39.15.178]) by mxu7.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1E1IoHU032320 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 17:18:50 -0800 Received: from localhost (ricklew@localhost) by server1.shellworld.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id h1E1Inl36826 for ; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 19:18:49 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from ricklew@shellworld.net) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 18:18:49 -0700 (MST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Rick Lewis To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: feature request: quell-display-of-quoted-text MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi, Folks, How difficult would it be to implement a feature which would quell the display of text beginning with > signs when reading messages? Since I have a good memory, I hardly have need to see a quote. And quotes vary in length from a line to several screens, depending on the quoter. Using speech and Braille, I can honestly say that it drives me crazy, but it seems that most people's preference is to quote liberally and often. Often it takes much longer to find the new text than it does to read it. Since most people put new text at the bottom, instead of the top with the quoted text below for reference, it's a losing battle. Would a feature to quell display of quoted text be doable? Thanks for reading and considering this. --Rick -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 14 Feb 2003 00:13:58 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1E8DsTk030766; Fri, 14 Feb 2003 00:13:54 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1E8DmnO006970 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Fri, 14 Feb 2003 00:13:49 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with SMTP id h1E8C309019058; Fri, 14 Feb 2003 00:12:03 -0800 Received: from mxu5.u.washington.edu (mxu5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.164]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1E85Th4028552 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 2003 00:05:30 -0800 Received: from pluton.ispras.ru ([195.208.53.253]) by mxu5.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with SMTP id h1E85PZ7022225 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 2003 00:05:27 -0800 Received: (qmail 85731 invoked from network); 14 Feb 2003 07:49:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fly.ispras.ru) (195.208.32.212) by pluton.ispras.ru with SMTP; 14 Feb 2003 07:49:52 -0000 Received: (from root@localhost) by fly.ispras.ru (8.12.2/8.12.2) id h1E85MUh000901 for pine-info@u.washington.edu.KAV; Fri, 14 Feb 2003 11:05:22 +0300 (MSK) Received: from gate.ispras.ru (ns.ispras.ru [195.208.32.200]) by fly.ispras.ru (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id h1E85LBu000893 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 2003 11:05:21 +0300 (MSK) Received: from gate.ispras.ru (gate.ispras.ru [195.208.32.200]) by gate.ispras.ru (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id h1E85LBh027144 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 2003 11:05:22 +0300 (MSK) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 11:05:21 +0300 (MSK) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Grigory Klyuchnikov To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Disable line wrapping in pine MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello, How can I disable the line wrapping in pine? If it's possible :) If it's not, is it possible to increase max composer-wrap-column? (by default it's 80) Thanks, Grigory Klyuchnikov, System Engineer, Institute for System Programming Russian Academy of Sciences -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 14 Feb 2003 01:35:31 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1E9ZUTk032457; Fri, 14 Feb 2003 01:35:30 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1E9ZRnO008602 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Fri, 14 Feb 2003 01:35:28 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with SMTP id h1E9YD09010416; Fri, 14 Feb 2003 01:34:13 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.132]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1E9XTh4034704 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 2003 01:33:29 -0800 Received: from christina.datohosting.be (christina.datohosting.be [213.193.225.81]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1E9XQfW016513 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 14 Feb 2003 01:33:28 -0800 Received: from christina.datohosting.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by christina.datohosting.be (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h1E9XL2V022750; Fri, 14 Feb 2003 10:33:21 +0100 Received: from localhost (genesis@localhost) by christina.datohosting.be (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) with ESMTP id h1E9XKES022746; Fri, 14 Feb 2003 10:33:20 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 10:33:20 +0100 (CET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Frederik Vervaet To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Disable line wrapping in pine In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Grigory Klyuchnikov X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: christina.datohosting.be: genesis owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Fri, 14 Feb 2003, Grigory Klyuchnikov wrote: > Hello, > > How can I disable the line wrapping in pine? If it's possible :) > If it's not, is it possible to increase max composer-wrap-column? > (by default it's 80) > > Thanks, > > Grigory Klyuchnikov, System Engineer, > Institute for System Programming > Russian Academy of Sciences > Grep is your friend. Find and open os.h (can be found in your pine source dir : ~/pine4.53/pine/os.h or relative to whatever location you put the source. Then look for the following : /*---------------------------------------------------------------------- Default fill column for pine composer and maximum fill column. The max is used to stop people from setting their custom fill column higher than that number. Note that DF_FILLCOL is a string but MAX_FILLCOL is an integer. ----*/ #define DF_FILLCOL "74" #define MAX_FILLCOL 80 Pretty obvious I'd say. Just change the 80 to whatever you'd like the MAX to be and you can then change it from within pine. (After you recompiled ofcourse :p) -- Frederik Vervaet -The Lean Mean Mailing Machine We, the unwilling, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have done so much, for so long, with so little, we are now qualified to do anything with nothing. From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 14 Feb 2003 07:53:57 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1EFruTk009277; Fri, 14 Feb 2003 07:53:56 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1EFrmWb009350 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Fri, 14 Feb 2003 07:53:48 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with SMTP id h1EFpqjm033468; Fri, 14 Feb 2003 07:51:52 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1EFp3h4023624 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 2003 07:51:04 -0800 Received: from moultrie.cse.sc.edu (moultrie.cse.sc.edu [129.252.138.7]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1EFp0QY020856 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 2003 07:51:00 -0800 Received: from rigel (rigel.cse.sc.edu [129.252.130.115]) by moultrie.cse.sc.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB3DC1E4D0 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 2003 10:50:59 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 09:50:59 -0600 (CST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Gopi Sundaram To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Disable line wrapping in pine In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: gopalan@rigel X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Fri, 14 Feb 2003, Grigory Klyuchnikov wrote: > How can I disable the line wrapping in pine? pico -w > is it possible to increase max composer-wrap-column? pico -rN (where N is the column number) For further options, pico -h -- Gopi Sundaram http://www.zrox.net/Mail/Pine/ From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 14 Feb 2003 08:02:42 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1EG2gTk009552; Fri, 14 Feb 2003 08:02:42 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1EG2XWb009612 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Fri, 14 Feb 2003 08:02:35 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with SMTP id h1EG0Jll016768; Fri, 14 Feb 2003 08:00:19 -0800 Received: from mxu5.u.washington.edu (mxu5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.164]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1EFxsh4026102 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 2003 07:59:55 -0800 Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1]) by mxu5.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1EFxnZ7028481 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 2003 07:59:50 -0800 Received: from goedel1.math.washington.edu (goedel1.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.10]) by euler.math.washington.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h1EFxkq460104; Fri, 14 Feb 2003 07:59:47 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 07:59:46 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Eduardo Chappa To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Disable line wrapping in pine In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Grigory Klyuchnikov X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN *** Grigory Klyuchnikov (grn@ispras.ru) wrote in the pine-info list today: :) How can I disable the line wrapping in pine? If it's possible :) If :) it's not, is it possible to increase max composer-wrap-column? (by :) default it's 80) Hello Grigory, Alan Iwi wrote a patch for setting on/off wrapping while composing a message in Pine (in its default editor Pico). He was very kind to submit the patch to my site and it can be obtained from there. Take a look at here: http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/#Wrap -- Eduardo http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/ From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 14 Feb 2003 15:31:57 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1ENVtTk026907; Fri, 14 Feb 2003 15:31:55 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1ENVpWb026086 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Fri, 14 Feb 2003 15:31:51 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with SMTP id h1ENTi09031346; Fri, 14 Feb 2003 15:29:44 -0800 Received: from mxu7.u.washington.edu (mxu7.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.165]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1ENPmh4020664 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 2003 15:25:48 -0800 Received: from aslan.narnia.pp.se (aslan.narnia.pp.se [212.247.3.100]) by mxu7.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1ENPiHU016631 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 14 Feb 2003 15:25:46 -0800 Received: from localhost (dufberg@localhost) by aslan.narnia.pp.se (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id h1ENPcc04912; Sat, 15 Feb 2003 00:25:39 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from dufberg@narnia.pp.se) Message-Id: <20030215002450.J57334-100000@aslan.narnia.pp.se> Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 00:25:38 +0100 (CET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Mats Dufberg To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Default login name vs user name? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Bill Schoolcraft X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-message-flag: Tired of your mail client? Get pine! http://www.washington.edu/pine/ X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Feb 13, 2003, 14:42 (-0800) Bill Schoolcraft wrote: > I been using Unix boxes with my login name of "bill" and the Pine From: > address would show my email as being sent from "bill@wiliweld.com" > > Now I'm on a machine that has the user account of "wiliweld" and the > From: field will state "wiliweld@wiliweld.com" unless I catch it in > time. Add "From: bill@wiliweld.com" to customized-hdrs. Mats ----------------------------------------------------------------- Mats Dufberg dufberg@narnia.pp.se Blaoarvsgraend 42 +46-8-38 48 59 SE-162 45 Vaellingby, Sweden +46-70-258 2588 From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 15 Feb 2003 03:55:12 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1FBtBTk011744; Sat, 15 Feb 2003 03:55:11 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1FBt8Wb010348 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Sat, 15 Feb 2003 03:55:08 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with SMTP id h1FBqF09014560; Sat, 15 Feb 2003 03:52:16 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1FBlDh4011470 for ; Sat, 15 Feb 2003 03:47:13 -0800 Received: from arbor.panaso.com (arbor.panaso.com [199.60.48.160]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with SMTP id h1FBlCM5011650 for ; Sat, 15 Feb 2003 03:47:12 -0800 Received: (qmail 40633 invoked from network); 15 Feb 2003 11:47:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (127.0.0.1) by localhost.panaso.com with SMTP; 15 Feb 2003 11:47:07 -0000 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 03:47:07 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Tim Baur To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: PGP as attachment - how? In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-PGP: 0x44DB0D83 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Thu, 30 Jan 2003, Daniel Albuschat wrote: > So, my first question is, does anybody know, how I > can set up either gpg or pine to attach the signature? [...] > Does anybody know a solution for _clean_ gpg signing > and encrypting? ppf, pine-pgp-filters written by Doug Barton. http://dougbarton.net/FreeBSD/Downloads/ ===== Features In addition to the standard functions of encrypt/decrypt and sign/verify, I've also added a pseudo-filter to verify messages that were sent using MIME encoding to attach the signature. See INSTALL for how to use it. It's not possible for a sending filter to create these kinds of MIME messages, since Pine does not give the user the ability to twiddle attachments. |^W tbaur@arbor~/pine-pgp-filters-1.0: tail INSTALL Pipe RAW message 1 to : ppf_mime ^G Help ^W Shown Text ^R With Delimiter ^C Cancel Ret Accept ^Y Free Output While this procedure is a little cumbersome the first time through, the good news is that Pine will offer these choices as the defaults for subsequent invocations of the | command during that same session. Once you've viewed the processed message output, just type E (Exit Viewer) and you're back to the message view you were in previously. Overall, I'm pretty content with ppf. Quick clean code. -tbaur From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 16 Feb 2003 22:47:45 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1H6ljTk000302; Sun, 16 Feb 2003 22:47:45 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1H6lXWb002645 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Sun, 16 Feb 2003 22:47:34 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with SMTP id h1H6jODb092200; Sun, 16 Feb 2003 22:45:24 -0800 Received: from mxu5.u.washington.edu (mxu5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.164]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1H6hrh4022806 for ; Sun, 16 Feb 2003 22:43:53 -0800 Received: from teratorn.org (s2p3-145.world-net.net [207.71.22.145]) by mxu5.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1H6hpZ7026882 for ; Sun, 16 Feb 2003 22:43:52 -0800 Received: from world-net.net (office3.localdom [10.0.0.3]) by teratorn.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02764351839 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 00:46:13 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <3E508536.609@world-net.net> Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 00:46:14 -0600 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Eric Mangold To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Pine core dump MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en-us, en X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=III, Probability=3%, Report="SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE, SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, X_ACCEPT_LANG, __EVITE_CTYPE" Hi, I was just using pine and it cored on me while I was idle in the Index view. I thought the list might like to know. Here's the output: Problem detected: "Bad msgno 159 in mail_elt, nmsgs = 156". Pine Exiting. Abort (core dumped) I've put the core file up for anyone interested: http://world-net.net/home/mangeng/misc/pine.core Also, this is pine 4.50 running on openbsd 3.2. I'm also using the maildir patch. Thanks, -Eric Mangold -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 00:50:25 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1H8oNTk002826; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 00:50:23 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1H8oJWb005064 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Mon, 17 Feb 2003 00:50:19 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with SMTP id h1H8mBll027044; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 00:48:12 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.132]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1H8lKh4021136 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 00:47:21 -0800 Received: from mail.araneidae.co.uk (pc2-oxfd2-4-cust9.oxfd.cable.ntl.com [62.254.143.9]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1H8lGfW011955 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 00:47:19 -0800 Received: from saturn.araneidae.co.uk (michael@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.araneidae.co.uk (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h1H8lECA048648 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 08:47:14 GMT (envelope-from michael@saturn.araneidae.co.uk) Received: from localhost (michael@localhost) by saturn.araneidae.co.uk (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) with ESMTP id h1H8lExf048644 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 08:47:14 GMT Message-Id: <20030217084046.A48639@saturn.araneidae.co.uk> Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 08:47:14 +0000 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Michael Abbott To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Pine lockfile MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=II, Probability=2%, Report="SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE, SPAM_PHRASE_01_02" X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIII, Probability=6%, Report="SPAM_PHRASE_01_02" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I've just upgraded pine to 4.53 (on FreeBSD, using ports) and have been reminded of a problem that required some investigation last time I installed pine. I don't really understand why this problem *still* arises. When installed, pine complains on startup thus: Folder vulnerable - directory /var/mail must have 1777 protection This is telling me that my mail folder should be wide open. I understand that this is because pine wishes to place a lock file in this directory. Leaving this folder wide open does not seem a good idea, and after some investigation I came up with the following approach: # chmod +t /var/mail # chown :mail /usr/local/bin/pine # chown g+s /usr/local/bin/pine The mail user only seems to own the mail folder, so it seems to make a lot of sense to give pine exclusive write access to this folder. Can anyone comment on: 1. What's wrong with this approach; 2. If there's nothing wrong with it, why isn't it done? -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 01:09:19 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1H99ITk003241; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 01:09:18 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1H99DnO013079 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Mon, 17 Feb 2003 01:09:14 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with SMTP id h1H97I09031022; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 01:07:18 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1H96eh4022406 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 01:06:40 -0800 Received: from jktsm04 ([202.155.50.23]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1H96cM5013183 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 01:06:39 -0800 Received: from localhost.localdomain (gw02.holdiko.com [202.155.43.68]) by imsmta4.indosat.net.id (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.09 (built Jan 7 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HAG00A7V4LBBW@imsmta4.indosat.net.id> for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 16:20:01 +0700 (JAVT) Received: from odee (odee [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h1H97kLJ001573 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 16:07:49 +0700 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 16:07:46 +0700 (WIT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: David Sudjiman To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: move email(s) from folder MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XIII, Probability=13%, Report="DEAR_SOMEBODY, FORGED_YAHOO_RCVD, SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE, SPAM_PHRASE_01_02, USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XIIIIII, Probability=16%, Report="DEAR_SOMEBODY, FORGED_YAHOO_RCVD, SPAM_PHRASE_01_02, USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Dear All, How can I move email(s) from a folder? thx thx .dave Watch all-night Donna Reed reruns until your mind resembles oatmeal. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 04:03:48 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1HC3hTk008383; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 04:03:43 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1HC3cnO016883 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Mon, 17 Feb 2003 04:03:38 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with SMTP id h1HC1hDb096546; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 04:01:44 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.132]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1HC0rh4011016 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 04:00:54 -0800 Received: from pluton.ispras.ru ([195.208.53.253]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with SMTP id h1HC0nfV002897 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 04:00:51 -0800 Received: (qmail 17687 invoked from network); 17 Feb 2003 11:44:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fly.ispras.ru) (195.208.32.212) by pluton.ispras.ru with SMTP; 17 Feb 2003 11:44:23 -0000 Received: (from root@localhost) by fly.ispras.ru (8.12.2/8.12.2) id h1HC08gg010719 for pine-info@u.washington.edu.KAV; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 15:00:08 +0300 (MSK) Received: from gate.ispras.ru (ns.ispras.ru [195.208.32.200]) by fly.ispras.ru (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id h1HC07Bu010703; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 15:00:07 +0300 (MSK) Received: from gate.ispras.ru (gate.ispras.ru [195.208.32.200]) by gate.ispras.ru (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id h1HC07L4021987; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 15:00:07 +0300 (MSK) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 15:00:07 +0300 (MSK) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Grigory Klyuchnikov To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Disable line wrapping in pine In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Eduardo Chappa X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello Eduardo, it's working now and it's what I want. Many thanks. On Fri, 14 Feb 2003, Eduardo Chappa wrote: > *** Grigory Klyuchnikov (grn@ispras.ru) wrote in the pine-info list today: > > :) How can I disable the line wrapping in pine? If it's possible :) If > :) it's not, is it possible to increase max composer-wrap-column? (by > :) default it's 80) > > Hello Grigory, > > Alan Iwi wrote a patch for setting on/off wrapping while composing a > message in Pine (in its default editor Pico). He was very kind to submit > the patch to my site and it can be obtained from there. Take a look at > here: > > http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/#Wrap > > -- > Eduardo > http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/ > Grigory Klyuchnikov, System Engineer, Institute for System Programming Russian Academy of Sciences From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 05:03:46 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1HD3jTk010150; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 05:03:45 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1HD3cnO018204 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Mon, 17 Feb 2003 05:03:39 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with SMTP id h1HD1oDb096634; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 05:01:51 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.132]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1HD19h4023526 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 05:01:09 -0800 Received: from server1.shellworld.net (server1.shellworld.net [64.39.15.178]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1HD17fW009777 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 05:01:08 -0800 Received: from localhost (ricklew@localhost) by server1.shellworld.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id h1HD16519994 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 07:01:07 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from ricklew@shellworld.net) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 06:01:06 -0700 (MST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Rick Lewis To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: move email(s) from folder In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIII, Probability=4%, Report="IN_REP_TO, RCVD_IN_MULTIHOP_DSBL, RCVD_IN_UNCONFIRMED_DSBL, REFERENCES, SPAM_PHRASE_02_03, USER_AGENT_PINE" First of all, it'll save time if you enable aggregate commands in the configuration. >From the main menu: s for setup, c for config. w to search, type in aggregate and hit enter. Check the box. E to exit, and y to commit the changes. Now, in the folder with the messages you'd like to move, you can do it in a number of ways. If you're moving all of the messages, just do this: ; a a s If you're moving only some messages but not all, you can do this: ; for aggregate command n for numbered messages 6-11, 15, 17 (would act upon messages 6 through 11, 15 and 17) a to apply s to save You'll be prompted for the folder name in both instances. Type in the name, and it's done. --Rick From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 11:25:00 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1HJP0Tk017429; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 11:25:00 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1HJOsWb018923 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Mon, 17 Feb 2003 11:24:55 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with SMTP id h1HJN4ll020568; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 11:23:04 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.132]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1HJMKh4029812 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 11:22:20 -0800 Received: from smtp.inetplus.net (smtp.inetplus.net [63.175.213.41]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1HJMHfV003154 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 11:22:18 -0800 Received: from music (66.227.241.233.gha.mi.chartermi.net [66.227.241.233]) by smtp.inetplus.net (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h1HJMDk3044501 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 14:22:13 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <000501c2d6b9$ddcf2830$3401a8c0@music> Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 14:22:09 -0500 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Kevin Hoffer" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: RE: DON'T DELETE MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XXXXIIII, Probability=44%, Report="DONT_DELETE, PRIORITY_NO_NAME, SPAM_PHRASE_01_02, SUBJ_ALL_CAPS, UPPERCASE_25_50, __EVITE_CTYPE, __HAS_MIMEOLE, __HAS_MSMAIL_PRI, __HAS_X_PRIORITY, __UPPERCASE_25_50" X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XXXIIIII, Probability=35%, Report="DONT_DELETE, SPAM_PHRASE_01_02, SUBJ_ALL_CAPS, UPPERCASE_25_50, __EVITE_CTYPE, __HAS_MIMEOLE, __HAS_MSMAIL_PRI, __HAS_OUTLOOK_IN_MAILER, __HAS_X_MAILER, __HAS_X_PRIORITY, __UPPERCASE_25_50" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN If I read my mail with pine and then go and download my mail with POP I get a message that says "DON'T DELETE THIS MESSAGE -- FOLDER INTERNAL DATA" Is there any way to stop pine from putting that message in the mail file? Kevin From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 11:30:00 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1HJU0Tk017556; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 11:30:00 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1HJTuWb019040 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Mon, 17 Feb 2003 11:29:56 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with SMTP id h1HJS2Db077598; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 11:28:02 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.132]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1HJRch4020226 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 11:27:38 -0800 Received: from himring.draga.com (himring.draga.com [168.100.199.162]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1HJRafW004461 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 11:27:37 -0800 Received: from localhost (jwise@localhost) by himring.draga.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h1HJRT719206; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 14:27:29 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 14:27:24 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Jim Wise To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: RE: DON'T DELETE In-Reply-To: <000501c2d6b9$ddcf2830$3401a8c0@music> References: <000501c2d6b9$ddcf2830$3401a8c0@music> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Kevin Hoffer X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XII, Probability=12%, Report="DONT_DELETE, IN_REP_TO, PGP_SIGNATURE, RCVD_IN_MULTIHOP_DSBL, RCVD_IN_UNCONFIRMED_DSBL, REFERENCES, SPAM_PHRASE_01_02, SUBJ_ALL_CAPS, USER_AGENT_PINE" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 17 Feb 2003, Kevin Hoffer wrote: > >If I read my mail with pine and then go and download my mail with POP I >get a message that says "DON'T DELETE THIS MESSAGE -- FOLDER INTERNAL >DATA" Is there any way to stop pine from putting that message in the >mail file? Says pine's help: FEATURE: quell-folder-internal-msg This feature determines whether or not Pine will create "pseudo messages" in folders that are in standard Unix or MMDF format. Pine will normally create these pseudo messages when they are not already present in a standard Unix or MMDF folder. Their purpose is to record certain mailbox state data needed for correct IMAP and POP server operation, and also for Pine to be able to mark messages as Answered when the Reply has been postponed. Sites which do not use IMAP/POP for remote mail access, and which need to support mail tools that are adversely affected by the presence of the pseudo-messages (e.g. some mail notification tools) may enable this feature to tell Pine not to create them. Note that Pine's "Answered" flag capability will be adversely affected if this is done. Note too that, even if this feature is enabled, Pine will not remove pseudo-messages when it encounters them (e.g. those created by UW's imapd or ipopd servers.) This feature has no effect on folders that are not in standard Unix or MMDF format, as pseudo-messages are not needed in the other formats to record mailbox state information. - -- Jim Wise jwise@draga.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (NetBSD) iD8DBQE+UTehlGcH240chEIRAvZCAKDHKa6GV03dP+3/JkkptfynzPmwmwCaAiMP rDj8+2uV83a6Lzg4Gg/C+Qo= =2b1e -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 13:49:00 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1HLmxTk020698; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 13:48:59 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1HLmrWb022345 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Mon, 17 Feb 2003 13:48:53 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with SMTP id h1HLkrll026052; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 13:46:53 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.133]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1HLkEh4011076 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 13:46:14 -0800 Received: from aslan.narnia.pp.se (aslan.narnia.pp.se [212.247.3.100]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1HLkBkq002807 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 13:46:13 -0800 Received: from localhost (dufberg@localhost) by aslan.narnia.pp.se (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id h1HLk3F23467; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 22:46:03 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from dufberg@narnia.pp.se) Message-Id: <20030217223150.X18001-100000@aslan.narnia.pp.se> Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 22:46:03 +0100 (CET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Mats Dufberg To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Pine lockfile In-Reply-To: <20030217084046.A48639@saturn.araneidae.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Michael Abbott X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-message-flag: Tired of your mail client? Get pine! http://www.washington.edu/pine/ X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIIII, Probability=8%, Report="IN_REP_TO, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, RCVD_IN_MULTIHOP_DSBL, RCVD_IN_UNCONFIRMED_DSBL, SPAM_PHRASE_02_03" On Feb 17, 2003, 08:47 (-0000) Michael Abbott wrote: > I've just upgraded pine to 4.53 (on FreeBSD, using ports) and have been > reminded of a problem that required some investigation last time I > installed pine. I don't really understand why this problem *still* > arises. > > When installed, pine complains on startup thus: > > Folder vulnerable - directory /var/mail must have 1777 protection > > This is telling me that my mail folder should be wide open. I understand > that this is because pine wishes to place a lock file in this directory. Well, it is not wide open. You have the sticy bit set, just like with /tmp. If I am correct you must set 1777 protection only if lock files is the only availble locking method. As far as I understand most UNIX flavors, like FreeBSD, have other locking methods that don't requir locking with files, and then it is not needed. > Leaving this folder wide open does not seem a good idea, and after some > investigation I came up with the following approach: > > # chmod +t /var/mail > # chown :mail /usr/local/bin/pine > # chown g+s /usr/local/bin/pine (I guess you mean "chmod g+s".) > The mail user only seems to own the mail folder, so it seems to make a lot > of sense to give pine exclusive write access to this folder. > > Can anyone comment on: > 1. What's wrong with this approach; > 2. If there's nothing wrong with it, why isn't it done? As far as I can see you open up a huge sucurity hole with your approach. You say that pine should be run as group mail for any user running pine. That means that any user can read any other user's spool file. Both setuid and setgid should be avoided, and it should defintely not be added to program not designed to be setuid/setgid. Mats ----------------------------------------------------------------- Mats Dufberg dufberg@narnia.pp.se Blaoarvsgraend 42 +46-8-38 48 59 SE-162 45 Vaellingby, Sweden +46-70-258 2588 From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 14:13:26 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1HMDPTk021257; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 14:13:25 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1HMDKWb022961 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Mon, 17 Feb 2003 14:13:21 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with SMTP id h1HMBaDb077812; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 14:11:36 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1HMB7h4020442 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 14:11:08 -0800 Received: from mail.araneidae.co.uk (pc2-oxfd2-4-cust9.oxfd.cable.ntl.com [62.254.143.9]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1HMB4M6006133 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 14:11:06 -0800 Received: from saturn.araneidae.co.uk (michael@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.araneidae.co.uk (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h1HMAwCA050625; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 22:10:58 GMT (envelope-from michael@saturn.araneidae.co.uk) Received: from localhost (michael@localhost) by saturn.araneidae.co.uk (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) with ESMTP id h1HMAvW3050622; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 22:10:57 GMT Message-Id: <20030217214724.C49904@saturn.araneidae.co.uk> Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 22:10:57 +0000 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Michael Abbott To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Pine lockfile In-Reply-To: <20030217223150.X18001-100000@aslan.narnia.pp.se> References: <20030217223150.X18001-100000@aslan.narnia.pp.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Mats Dufberg X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN > Well, it is not wide open. You have the sticky bit set, just like with > /tmp. True. But it seems more open than it should be. In particular, this means that anyone can use /var/mail as a temporary working folder! This doesn't seem right... > If I am correct you must set 1777 protection only if lock files is the > only availble locking method. As far as I understand most UNIX flavors, > like FreeBSD, have other locking methods that don't requir locking with > files, and then it is not needed. This kind of makes sense, but then why does pine complain like it does? If pine doesn't need 1777 access to /var/mail, it shouldn't ask for it! If it does, then something feels wrong. > > # chown g+s /usr/local/bin/pine > (I guess you mean "chmod g+s".) Sorry; quite right! > As far as I can see you open up a huge sucurity hole with your approach. > You say that pine should be run as group mail for any user running pine. > That means that any user can read any other user's spool file. Oooooops. >checks< No, I think it's ok. The *only* file/directory in the entire system that is owned by mail is /var/mail (and now pine). In particular, this means that pine can't read the files *in* this directory without already owning them (by being the right user). >phew< I *thought* I'd checked that! # find / -group mail /usr/local/bin/pine /var/mail # > Both setuid and setgid should be avoided, and it should defintely not be > added to program not designed to be setuid/setgid. Well, I take your point, and your suggestion that I'd opened a hole made me worry. However, I think it's quite safe. All the mail group does is give pine access to the mail group, ie the ability to write to /var/mail. To be honest, this looks to me like quite a *sensible* application of setgid, and I can't see a way to misuse it. Unless I'm missing something? From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 14:46:09 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1HMk8Tk021840; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 14:46:08 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1HMk3Wb023672 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Mon, 17 Feb 2003 14:46:04 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with SMTP id h1HMhxjm019860; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 14:43:59 -0800 Received: from mxu5.u.washington.edu (mxu5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.164]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1HMhRh4011168 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 14:43:28 -0800 Received: from aslan.narnia.pp.se (aslan.narnia.pp.se [212.247.3.100]) by mxu5.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1HMhOZ8003341 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 14:43:26 -0800 Received: from localhost (dufberg@localhost) by aslan.narnia.pp.se (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id h1HMhNw23648; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 23:43:23 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from dufberg@narnia.pp.se) Message-Id: <20030217233546.V18001-100000@aslan.narnia.pp.se> Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 23:43:23 +0100 (CET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Mats Dufberg To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Pine lockfile In-Reply-To: <20030217214724.C49904@saturn.araneidae.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Michael Abbott X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-message-flag: Tired of your mail client? Get pine! http://www.washington.edu/pine/ X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIIII, Probability=8%, Report="IN_REP_TO, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, RCVD_IN_MULTIHOP_DSBL, RCVD_IN_UNCONFIRMED_DSBL, SPAM_PHRASE_02_03" On Feb 17, 2003, 22:10 (-0000) Michael Abbott wrote: > > Well, it is not wide open. You have the sticky bit set, just like with > > /tmp. > True. But it seems more open than it should be. In particular, this > means that anyone can use /var/mail as a temporary working folder! This > doesn't seem right... I agree with you. > > If I am correct you must set 1777 protection only if lock files is the > > only availble locking method. As far as I understand most UNIX flavors, > > like FreeBSD, have other locking methods that don't requir locking with > > files, and then it is not needed. > This kind of makes sense, but then why does pine complain like it does? > If pine doesn't need 1777 access to /var/mail, it shouldn't ask for it! > If it does, then something feels wrong. I think they do it to be on the safe side... I know that they (UW) have information on their web site. > No, I think it's ok. The *only* file/directory in the entire system that > is owned by mail is /var/mail (and now pine). In particular, this means > that pine can't read the files *in* this directory without already owning > them (by being the right user). > > >phew< I *thought* I'd checked that! > > # find / -group mail > /usr/local/bin/pine > /var/mail > # I thought that the spool files were group writeable, but they are not on my system either. (But I remember having seen that.) But new files created by pine will be owned by group mail, and if they are group writable you have opened a hole. > However, I think it's quite safe. All the mail group does is give pine > access to the mail group, ie the ability to write to /var/mail. To be > honest, this looks to me like quite a *sensible* application of setgid, > and I can't see a way to misuse it. I agree that my warning was maybe to harsh, but I still would not add setgid to an application not designed to be setgid. Could anyone from UW make a statement on the need of world writable spool directory? Mats ----------------------------------------------------------------- Mats Dufberg dufberg@narnia.pp.se Blaoarvsgraend 42 +46-8-38 48 59 SE-162 45 Vaellingby, Sweden +46-70-258 2588 From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 15:00:00 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1HMxxTk022094; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 14:59:59 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1HMxunO031924 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Mon, 17 Feb 2003 14:59:57 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with SMTP id h1HMw9Db094820; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 14:58:09 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1HMvZh4020266 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 14:57:36 -0800 Received: from devserv.devel.redhat.com (nat-pool-rdu.redhat.com [66.187.233.200]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1HMvXM5014450 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 14:57:34 -0800 Received: from devel.capslock.lan (mharris.cipe.redhat.com [10.0.1.136]) by devserv.devel.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.0) with ESMTP id h1HMvPp28361; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 17:57:25 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 18:03:43 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Mike A. Harris" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Pine lockfile In-Reply-To: <20030217214724.C49904@saturn.araneidae.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Michael Abbott X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: mharris@devel.capslock.lan X-Unexpected-Header: The Spanish Inquisition X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mon, 17 Feb 2003, Michael Abbott wrote: >> Well, it is not wide open. You have the sticky bit set, just like with >> /tmp. >True. But it seems more open than it should be. In particular, this >means that anyone can use /var/mail as a temporary working folder! This >doesn't seem right... > >> If I am correct you must set 1777 protection only if lock files is the >> only availble locking method. As far as I understand most UNIX flavors, >> like FreeBSD, have other locking methods that don't requir locking with >> files, and then it is not needed. >This kind of makes sense, but then why does pine complain like it does? >If pine doesn't need 1777 access to /var/mail, it shouldn't ask for it! >If it does, then something feels wrong. It doesn't. In Red Hat Linux, our mail spool directory is mode 0775 and owned by root, group "mail". User's mail spool files are owned by the user, group "mail". This setup is what all of the mail applications we ship use, or are modified to use if they don't use it by default. It works well in Linux systems. >However, I think it's quite safe. All the mail group does is give pine >access to the mail group, ie the ability to write to /var/mail. To be >honest, this looks to me like quite a *sensible* application of setgid, >and I can't see a way to misuse it. > >Unless I'm missing something? Making pine SUID is a rather large security hole. I'd put $10000 bet that Al Viro locked in a room with pine could find a shell to root vuln in less than an hour if it were SUID root. Then again, he could find similar holes in hello-world.c so..... -- Mike A. Harris ftp://people.redhat.com/mharris OS Systems Engineer - XFree86 maintainer - Red Hat From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 15:08:10 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1HN89Tk022417; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 15:08:09 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1HN84nO032221 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Mon, 17 Feb 2003 15:08:05 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with SMTP id h1HN6ADb083734; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 15:06:10 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1HN5ph4020260 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 15:05:51 -0800 Received: from aslan.narnia.pp.se (aslan.narnia.pp.se [212.247.3.100]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1HN5mM6015960 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 15:05:50 -0800 Received: from localhost (dufberg@localhost) by aslan.narnia.pp.se (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id h1HN5lD25171; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 00:05:47 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from dufberg@narnia.pp.se) Message-Id: <20030218000315.Y18001-100000@aslan.narnia.pp.se> Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 00:05:46 +0100 (CET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Mats Dufberg To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Pine lockfile In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Mike A. Harris" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-message-flag: Tired of your mail client? Get pine! http://www.washington.edu/pine/ X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Feb 17, 2003, 18:03 (-0500) Mike A. Harris wrote: > >If pine doesn't need 1777 access to /var/mail, it shouldn't ask for it! > >If it does, then something feels wrong. > > It doesn't. In Red Hat Linux, our mail spool directory is mode > 0775 and owned by root, group "mail". User's mail spool files > are owned by the user, group "mail". > > This setup is what all of the mail applications we ship use, or > are modified to use if they don't use it by default. It works > well in Linux systems. And you have verified that locking is working correctly with pine? > Making pine SUID is a rather large security hole. I'd put $10000 > bet that Al Viro locked in a room with pine could find a shell to > root vuln in less than an hour if it were SUID root. Then again, > he could find similar holes in hello-world.c so..... Well, in this case it was SGID mail rather than SUID root. But still I would hesitate. UW has choosen not to do it SGID. Mats ----------------------------------------------------------------- Mats Dufberg dufberg@narnia.pp.se Blaoarvsgraend 42 +46-8-38 48 59 SE-162 45 Vaellingby, Sweden +46-70-258 2588 From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 15:15:15 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1HNFFTk022700; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 15:15:15 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1HNF9nO032369 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Mon, 17 Feb 2003 15:15:10 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with SMTP id h1HNCo09023368; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 15:12:51 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1HNCJh4032752 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 15:12:19 -0800 Received: from devserv.devel.redhat.com (nat-pool-rdu.redhat.com [66.187.233.200]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1HNCHM5017192 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 15:12:18 -0800 Received: from devel.capslock.lan (mharris.cipe.redhat.com [10.0.1.136]) by devserv.devel.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.0) with ESMTP id h1HNCFp32306; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 18:12:15 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 18:18:33 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Mike A. Harris" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Pine lockfile In-Reply-To: <20030218000315.Y18001-100000@aslan.narnia.pp.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Mats Dufberg X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: mharris@devel.capslock.lan X-Unexpected-Header: The Spanish Inquisition X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Tue, 18 Feb 2003, Mats Dufberg wrote: >> >If pine doesn't need 1777 access to /var/mail, it shouldn't ask for it! >> >If it does, then something feels wrong. >> >> It doesn't. In Red Hat Linux, our mail spool directory is mode >> 0775 and owned by root, group "mail". User's mail spool files >> are owned by the user, group "mail". >> >> This setup is what all of the mail applications we ship use, or >> are modified to use if they don't use it by default. It works >> well in Linux systems. > >And you have verified that locking is working correctly with pine? Well, we've been shipping like this for years, and yes it does work, although our pine is patched. Open 2 pine sessions at once and you're told the mailbox is in use by another pine session. >> Making pine SUID is a rather large security hole. I'd put $10000 >> bet that Al Viro locked in a room with pine could find a shell to >> root vuln in less than an hour if it were SUID root. Then again, >> he could find similar holes in hello-world.c so..... > >Well, in this case it was SGID mail rather than SUID root. But still I >would hesitate. UW has choosen not to do it SGID. I wouldn't SUID or SGID any software of sufficient complexity of something like pine. It's just too large of a security risk and is non-essential. There are other ways to accomplish locking safely and securely, at least on Linux systems. -- Mike A. Harris ftp://people.redhat.com/mharris OS Systems Engineer - XFree86 maintainer - Red Hat From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 15:26:01 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1HNQ0Tk022939; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 15:26:00 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1HNPunO032632 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Mon, 17 Feb 2003 15:25:57 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with SMTP id h1HNO5ll029996; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 15:24:05 -0800 Received: from mxu7.u.washington.edu (mxu7.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.165]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1HNNZh4027668 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 15:23:35 -0800 Received: from aslan.narnia.pp.se (aslan.narnia.pp.se [212.247.3.100]) by mxu7.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1HNNVHU001423 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 15:23:33 -0800 Received: from localhost (dufberg@localhost) by aslan.narnia.pp.se (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id h1HNNOn25231; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 00:23:24 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from dufberg@narnia.pp.se) Message-Id: <20030218001732.M18001-100000@aslan.narnia.pp.se> Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 00:23:24 +0100 (CET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Mats Dufberg To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Pine lockfile In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Mike A. Harris" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-message-flag: Tired of your mail client? Get pine! http://www.washington.edu/pine/ X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Feb 17, 2003, 18:18 (-0500) Mike A. Harris wrote: > >And you have verified that locking is working correctly with pine? > > Well, we've been shipping like this for years, and yes it does > work, although our pine is patched. Open 2 pine sessions at once > and you're told the mailbox is in use by another pine session. Yes, that should be a sufficient test, and I knew that I came to the same conclusion but you reminded me how. The same thing is true on FreeBSD. The conclusion is, don't make the spool directory sticky and turn pines warnings off. BUT test locking by opening two pine sessions against the same spool file. > I wouldn't SUID or SGID any software of sufficient complexity of > something like pine. It's just too large of a security risk and > is non-essential. There are other ways to accomplish locking > safely and securely, at least on Linux systems. And that's a good conclusion. -- Maybe there is a Unix where locking must be done with files, but raise a warning on them instead. Mats ----------------------------------------------------------------- Mats Dufberg dufberg@narnia.pp.se Blaoarvsgraend 42 +46-8-38 48 59 SE-162 45 Vaellingby, Sweden +46-70-258 2588 From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 23:29:16 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1I7TGTk001314; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 23:29:16 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1I7TCWb003008 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Mon, 17 Feb 2003 23:29:13 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with SMTP id h1I7RIDb085966; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 23:27:19 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.133]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1I7PQh4020654 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 23:25:28 -0800 Received: from mail.araneidae.co.uk (pc2-oxfd2-4-cust9.oxfd.cable.ntl.com [62.254.143.9]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1I7POkq007461 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 23:25:25 -0800 Received: from saturn.araneidae.co.uk (michael@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.araneidae.co.uk (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h1I7PFCA051510; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 07:25:15 GMT (envelope-from michael@saturn.araneidae.co.uk) Received: from localhost (michael@localhost) by saturn.araneidae.co.uk (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) with ESMTP id h1I7PENu051507; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 07:25:14 GMT Message-Id: <20030218071130.R51488@saturn.araneidae.co.uk> Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 07:25:14 +0000 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Michael Abbott To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Pine lockfile In-Reply-To: <20030218001732.M18001-100000@aslan.narnia.pp.se> References: <20030218001732.M18001-100000@aslan.narnia.pp.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Mats Dufberg X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN > > I wouldn't SUID or SGID any software of sufficient complexity of > > something like pine. It's just too large of a security risk and > > is non-essential. There are other ways to accomplish locking > > safely and securely, at least on Linux systems. > > And that's a good conclusion. -- Maybe there is a Unix where locking must > be done with files, but raise a warning on them instead. There seems to be an assumption here that SGID is automatically bad. I'm not convinced. In particular, in this particular case, I cannot think of any security risks. Obviously this may just be a failure of imagination, but I think this is worth investigating further. I think there are two issues here: 1. Does pine *really* need write access to /var/mail in order to implement its locking on FreeBSD? If not, is this a problem with pine or with the FreeBSD port? 2. Is there *really* any security issue in my proposed solution? So far a number of interesting hazards have been mentioned, but none of them mentioned so far actually apply in this case (for example, the files created by pine are *not* owned by group mail: recall my `find / -group mail` search). My impression is a slight confusion between the deadly hazards of SUID root and the obscure hazards(?) of SGID mail. From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 00:59:38 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1I8xbTk003321; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 00:59:37 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1I8xXnO013240 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Tue, 18 Feb 2003 00:59:34 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with SMTP id h1I8vp09025254; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 00:57:52 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1I8vCh4026970 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 00:57:12 -0800 Received: from pump3.york.ac.uk (pump3.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.131]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1I8v9QY029583 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 00:57:10 -0800 Received: from pippin.york.ac.uk (pippin.york.ac.uk [144.32.226.226]) by pump3.york.ac.uk (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id h1I8uvU22234 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 08:57:06 GMT Message-Id: <2147483647.1045558604@pippin.york.ac.uk> Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 08:56:44 +0000 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Mike Brudenell To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: RE: DON'T DELETE In-Reply-To: <000501c2d6b9$ddcf2830$3401a8c0@music> References: <000501c2d6b9$ddcf2830$3401a8c0@music> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Greetings - --On Monday, February 17, 2003 2:22 pm -0500 Kevin Hoffer wrote: > If I read my mail with pine and then go and download my mail with POP I > get a message that says "DON'T DELETE THIS MESSAGE -- FOLDER INTERNAL > DATA" Is there any way to stop pine from putting that message in the > mail file? > > Kevin --On Monday, February 17, 2003 2:27 pm -0500 Jim Wise wrote: > Says pine's help: > > FEATURE: quell-folder-internal-msg > > This feature determines whether or not Pine will create "pseudo > messages" in folders that are in standard Unix or MMDF format. > > Pine will normally create these pseudo messages when they are not > already present in a standard Unix or MMDF folder. Their purpose is to > record certain mailbox state data needed for correct IMAP and POP > server operation, and also for Pine to be able to mark messages as > Answered when the Reply has been postponed. > > Sites which do not use IMAP/POP for remote mail access, and which need > to support mail tools that are adversely affected by the presence of > the pseudo-messages (e.g. some mail notification tools) may enable > this feature to tell Pine not to create them. Note that Pine's > "Answered" flag capability will be adversely affected if this is done. > > Note too that, even if this feature is enabled, Pine will not remove > pseudo-messages when it encounters them (e.g. those created by UW's > imapd or ipopd servers.) This feature has no effect on folders that > are not in standard Unix or MMDF format, as pseudo-messages are not > needed in the other formats to record mailbox state information. I think Jim's answer is correct as far as it goes... However careful reading of the third and fourth paragraphs of the above help text shows that this setting in Pine only affects folders saved directly by Pine itself to disk, and then only if they do not already create a pseudo message. If you are using Pine with IMAP rather than direct-to-disk access, or use the UW IMAP daemon at all, then this setting is insufficient. The UW IMAP daemon itself creates and maintains the pseudo message (in order to maintain some important state information for the mail folder). So if you use _any_ mail client to open your folder using IMAP then I suspect you will find it creates the pseudo message again. (Actually I think it is the C-Client library that both Pine and the UW IMAP daemon use to manipulate mailboxes, hence why it affects both packages.) I believe this is the full solution (somebody please correct me if I'm wrong!): 1. If you are using Pine to access your mail folders directly from disk (rather than over IMAP)... ...Set the "quell-folder-internal-msg" in Pine's configuration settings to prevent this. AND 2. If you are using the UW IMAP daemon to access your mail folders... ...this, too, will create the pseudo message. Therefore you need to use a POP server that is 'understand' the pseudo message and hides it from your client's view. Such a server is bundled in with the IMAP and Pine dirstributions and called "ipop2d" and "ipop3d" (for POP2 and POP3 support respectively). If you switch to using this server instead of whichever POP server software you are currently using you should be OK. Cheers, Mike B-) -- The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York Yo10 5DD, UK Tel:+44-1904-433811 FAX:+44-1904-433740 * Unsolicited commercial e-mail is NOT welcome at this e-mail address. * From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 07:49:32 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1JFnVTk027799; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 07:49:31 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1JFnQWb022729 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Wed, 19 Feb 2003 07:49:27 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with SMTP id h1JFhM09004620; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 07:43:22 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.133]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h1JFfjAM018160 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 07:42:02 -0800 Received: from dori.rl.ac.uk (dori.rl.ac.uk [130.246.135.159]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h1JFVrsu021355 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 07:31:53 -0800 Received: from rlsaxps.bnsc.rl.ac.uk (ptw@rlsaxps.bnsc.rl.ac.uk [130.246.35.130]) by dori.rl.ac.uk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id h1JFVlF14001 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 15:31:47 GMT Received: from localhost (ptw@localhost) by rlsaxps.bnsc.rl.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA197867 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 15:31:47 GMT Message-Id: Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 15:31:47 +0000 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Patrick Wallace To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Can I stop pine printing attachments? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-RAL-MFrom: X-RAL-Connect: X-X-Sender: ptw@rlsaxps.bnsc.rl.ac.uk X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On the pine system here, attachments get printed along with the messages, if pine thinks the attached files are text. Unfortunately they're often huge LaTeX files, data logs etc. I've looked for control of this feature in the setup options and can't find anything. Is there a way of persuading pine not to print attachments? Patrick Wallace ____________________________________________________________________________ Starlink/HMNAO Internet: ptw@star.rl.ac.uk Rutherford Appleton Laboratory Tel: +44-1235-445372 Chilton, Didcot, Fax: +44-1235-446362 Oxon OX11 0QX, UK ____________________________________________________________________________ -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 10:15:29 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1JIFSTk001462; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 10:15:28 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1JIFNWn028490 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Wed, 19 Feb 2003 10:15:23 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h1JICkZD030912; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 10:12:46 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.132]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h1JIC1A8020770 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 10:12:01 -0800 Received: from helios.geneseo.edu (helios.geneseo.edu [137.238.1.100]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h1JIBwad000542 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 10:11:59 -0800 Received: from mars.geneseo.edu (mars.geneseo.edu [137.238.1.104]) by helios.geneseo.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h1JIBv7L001855 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 13:11:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from mars.geneseo.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mars.geneseo.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h1JIBr4p030875 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 13:11:53 -0500 Received: from localhost (valites@localhost) by mars.geneseo.edu (8.12.5/8.12.1/Submit) with ESMTP id h1JIBri0030872 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 13:11:53 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 13:11:53 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Mark T. Valites" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Reverse Searching in Message Index Window MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Is there any way to make pine search "backwards," instead of for the next match of a search string? I could to message 1 or select all messages, but this isn't practicle for folders with a lot of messages or matches. TIA, -Merk -- Mark T. Valites Unix Systems Analyst CIT - SUNY Geneseo >--))> >--))> -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 19:12:46 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1K3CkTk022471; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 19:12:46 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1K3CgVH026857 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Wed, 19 Feb 2003 19:12:43 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h1K3Ap0a026094; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 19:10:51 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h1K3AAA8042558 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 19:10:10 -0800 Received: from helios.geneseo.edu (helios.geneseo.edu [137.238.1.100]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h1K3A7w9013822 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 19:10:08 -0800 Received: from mars.geneseo.edu (mars.geneseo.edu [137.238.1.104]) by helios.geneseo.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h1K3A67L007204 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 22:10:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from mars.geneseo.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mars.geneseo.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h1K3A04p021467 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 22:10:00 -0500 Received: from localhost (valites@localhost) by mars.geneseo.edu (8.12.5/8.12.1/Submit) with ESMTP id h1K3A0JL021463 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 22:10:00 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 22:10:00 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Mark T. Valites" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Reverse Searching in Message Index Window In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Apparently I forgot how to spell today, sorry for the terrible grammar, it should have been semi-clear what I meant, but I edited the original post (below) in case not. On Wed, 19 Feb 2003, Mark T. Valites wrote: > Is there any way to make pine search "backwards," instead of for the "backwards", > next match of a search string? I could to message 1 or select all ^ | jump > messages, but this isn't practicle for folders with a lot of messages or > matches. > -Merk -Mark (Yeah, that's a bad mistake...) -- Mark T. Valites Unix Systems Analyst CIT - SUNY Geneseo >--))> >--))> From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 00:30:04 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1K8U3Tk030082; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 00:30:03 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1K8U0VH002389 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Thu, 20 Feb 2003 00:30:00 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h1K8S6SR083858; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 00:28:06 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h1K8OUA8037010 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 00:24:31 -0800 Received: from mx.whitestein.com (mx.whitestein.com [62.176.31.25]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h1K8OSjZ021707 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 00:24:29 -0800 Received: from mail.whitestein.com (linux [192.168.1.2]) by mx.whitestein.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE24F470E6 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 09:35:50 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.whitestein.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6838A69E0 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 09:28:17 +0100 (CET) Received: from spark.sk.whitestein.com (unknown [192.168.1.143]) by mail.whitestein.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0144E6931 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 09:28:14 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 09:24:24 +0100 (Central Europe Standard Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Miroslav Hornik To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Bug? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-X-Sender: mho@[192.168.1.2] X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS snapshot-20020300 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=I, Probability=1%, Report="SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello everybody, Maybe you are aware of this: I have experienced the following "strange" behavior (PC Pine 4.53). I created an folder "xy" in the Incoming-Folders, then created a simple filter rule which moves messages from a certain person to this folder -> this works ok, but: I renamed the folder "xy" to "ab" and looked at the Filter rule whether it updated the referenced folder name from "xy" to "ab" - it did not! However, the rule still works, the corresponding messages are moved to the renamed folder as before, despite of the confusing data in the Filter definition. Moreover, when I tried to specify the correct name of the folder in the Filter rule definition (by ^T for example), the pine refused to update the value to the correct name "ab" (there was still "xy"). What do you think? -- Miroslav Hornik | mho@whitestein.com Whitestein Technologies | www.whitestein.com Panenska 28 | SK-81103 Bratislava | Slovak Republic Tel +421(2)5443-5502, +421(2)5443-5504 | Fax +421(2)5443-5512 | -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 11:10:19 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1KJAJTk017473; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 11:10:19 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1KJAEVH020868 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Thu, 20 Feb 2003 11:10:15 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h1KJ7r0a030064; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 11:07:53 -0800 Received: from mxu5.u.washington.edu (mxu5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.164]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h1KJ6aA8048700 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 11:06:36 -0800 Received: from vax.hanford.org (vax.hanford.org [216.218.218.27]) by mxu5.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h1KJ6WPI021114 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 11:06:33 -0800 Received: (qmail 8019 invoked by uid 1828); 20 Feb 2003 19:06:32 -0000 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 11:06:32 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Matt Ackeret To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Bug? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XXXXII, Probability=42%, Report="IN_REP_TO, NO_MX_FOR_FROM, RCVD_IN_MULTIHOP_DSBL, RCVD_IN_UNCONFIRMED_DSBL, SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XXIIIIIIII, Probability=28%, Report="IN_REP_TO, NO_MX_FOR_FROM, SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Thu, 20 Feb 2003, Miroslav Hornik wrote: >I renamed the folder "xy" to "ab" and looked at the Filter rule >whether it updated the referenced folder name from "xy" to "ab" - it did >not! > >However, the rule still works, the corresponding messages are moved to the >renamed folder as before, despite of the confusing data in the Filter >definition. > >Moreover, when I tried to specify the correct name of the folder in the >Filter rule definition (by ^T for example), the pine refused to update the >value to the correct name "ab" (there was still "xy"). > >What do you think? Sounds like a bug that it won't let you update the name, but (wild guess time -- aka possible foot in mouth time) I'm guessing that the mail server actually has some kind of ID/number assigned to each folder, and the name is just a human-accessible thing. So presumably pine is actually using the number, which didn't change, so it still works. From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 00:24:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1L8OcTk008967; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 00:24:38 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1L8OYWn000579 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Fri, 21 Feb 2003 00:24:34 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h1L8KGSR096692; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 00:20:19 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.133]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h1L8DDA8018956 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 00:13:13 -0800 Received: from m2.bo.infn.it (m2.bo.infn.it [131.154.12.197]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h1L8D9xa015246 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=FAIL) for ; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 00:13:10 -0800 Received: from gauss.bo.infn.it (gauss.bo.infn.it [131.154.12.193]) by m2.bo.infn.it (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h1L8D7ar017290 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 09:13:07 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 09:12:37 +0100 (CET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Olindo Corradini (Bastianelli)" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: pine hangs In-Reply-To: <200302201539.h1KFdrhN028200@list1.u.washington.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-RAVMilter-Version: 8.4.1(snapshot 20020919) (m2.bo.infn.it) X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I'm using pine 4.44 on Red Hat Linux 7.3 and since last week anytime I try to do anything - except reading messages from INBOX - the program hangs, that is to say, it takes forever (about 10 minutes) to write/move files to other folders and even to open them. I've tried to inquire my support staff but they are clueless. Can anyone help me? Thanks, Olindo. -- Olindo Corradini Dipartimento di Fisica e INFN, Bologna via Irnerio 46, I-40126 Bologna, Italy Tel: +39-051-2091018 -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 22 Feb 2003 07:33:25 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1MFXOTk028245; Sat, 22 Feb 2003 07:33:24 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1MFXLVH029876 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Sat, 22 Feb 2003 07:33:21 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h1MFV8hN021154; Sat, 22 Feb 2003 07:31:09 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.133]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h1MFSdA8022470 for ; Sat, 22 Feb 2003 07:28:39 -0800 Received: from fnord.marigoldtech.com (19-236-234-66.cosmoweb.net [66.234.236.19]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h1MFSbxZ020446 for ; Sat, 22 Feb 2003 07:28:37 -0800 Received: (qmail 14269 invoked from network); 22 Feb 2003 15:27:37 -0000 Received: from 64.90.182.137.nyinternet.net (HELO althea.marigoldtech.com) (64.90.182.137) by 0 with SMTP; 22 Feb 2003 15:27:37 -0000 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 10:28:36 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Todd Goldenbaum To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Unneeded "From" line MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XIIIIIII, Probability=17%, Report="RCVD_IN_MULTIHOP_DSBL, RCVD_IN_UNCONFIRMED_DSBL, SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE, SPAM_PHRASE_02_03, USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=I, Probability=1%, Report="SPAM_PHRASE_02_03, USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I just upgraded from pine 4.44 to 4.53 on debian, and everything in my config file carried over okay with one exception- whenever I compose an email, the "From" line appears at the top fo the screen. Is this standard behaviour for 4.53? This may be a coincidence, but it struck me as particularly odd because I was playing around with Roles/Rules recently (from advice on this list) in order to deal with my username being different than the username in my email address. But on my new pine installation, my username >is< the same as my email username, so I never set up that role/rule. The config file from the role/rule installation is not the same one I'm using now, so I have no idea why I'd be seeing this now... Looking at pine's Setup/config, I honestly can't see anything that would show the From line every time... any advice? thanks Todd -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 24 Feb 2003 03:53:49 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1OBrnTk020973 for ; Mon, 24 Feb 2003 03:53:49 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1OBrjWn010844 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Mon, 24 Feb 2003 03:53:45 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h1OBoW0a025566; Mon, 24 Feb 2003 03:50:32 -0800 Received: from mxu5.u.washington.edu (mxu5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.164]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h1OBlxA8037716 for ; Mon, 24 Feb 2003 03:47:59 -0800 Received: from mailhub.lss.emc.com (xdch.emc.com [168.159.1.79]) by mxu5.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h1OBluPJ014679 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 24 Feb 2003 03:47:58 -0800 Received: from lad0178.lss.emc.com (lad0178.lss.emc.com [168.159.24.178]) by mailhub.lss.emc.com (Switch-2.2.0/Switch-2.2.0) with ESMTP id h1OBuBt05408 for ; Mon, 24 Feb 2003 06:56:13 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 06:47:04 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Doc Gorby To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: changing subject line on replies/forward MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Normally the string [re:} and (fwd) are added to the subject lines. Is it possible to have a unique entry substitued? e.g. marshal reply instead of (re:) -- Regards =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- T e r r y G o r b y UNIX Systems Manager EMC Corporation =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 27 Feb 2003 14:41:44 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1RMfiTk022755 for ; Thu, 27 Feb 2003 14:41:44 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1RMfe2n028645 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Thu, 27 Feb 2003 14:41:40 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h1RMZBhN057540; Thu, 27 Feb 2003 14:35:14 -0800 Received: from mxu5.u.washington.edu (mxu5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.164]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h1RMYBA8049576 for ; Thu, 27 Feb 2003 14:34:11 -0800 Received: from cache.zipcon.net (cache.zipcon.net [209.221.136.11]) by mxu5.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h1RMY9sC015086 for ; Thu, 27 Feb 2003 14:34:10 -0800 Received: (qmail 4677 invoked from network); 27 Feb 2003 22:34:18 -0000 Received: from lsanca1-ar8-174-146.lsanca1.dsl-verizon.net (HELO dev.itsite.com) (4.35.174.146) by itsite.com with SMTP; 27 Feb 2003 22:34:18 -0000 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 17:36:19 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Derek Simkowiak To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Bug with "domain" part MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XIIII, Probability=14%, Report="RCVD_IN_MULTIHOP_DSBL, RCVD_IN_UNCONFIRMED_DSBL, SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE, SPAM_PHRASE_01_02, USER_AGENT_PINE" I have an ISP-level system that hosts multiple domains for email, filesharing, and personal websites. In order to support multiple domains, the local usernames on this system are complete email addresses (which are stored in LDAP, which are found with PAM using nss-ldap, not that it matters). For example, here is an ssh sesssion for the local user test@realloc.net: login as: test@realloc.net Sent username "test@realloc.net" test@realloc.net@intranet.realloc.net's password: [test@realloc.net at intranet:../test@realloc.net]$ touch afile.txt [test@realloc.net at intranet:../test@realloc.net]$ ls -la afile.txt -rw-rw-r-- 1 test@realloc.net test@realloc.net 0 Feb 27 13:32 afile.txt [test@realloc.net at intranet:../test@realloc.net]$ This server offers up email via IMAP. So I have configured /etc/pine.conf with the following: inbox-path={intranet.realloc.net/ssl/novalidate-cert}INBOX (and similar entries for fcc, etc.) My problem is that Pine is Fubaring the From: address. I am unable to get a valid "From:" address to appear in emails that come from Pine. (Mozilla, Outlook, webmail, etc. work fine.) In my opinion, it is not behaving according to the documentation. First, note that I have this entry in my /etc/hosts: 63.251.164.134 intranet intranet.realloc.net Here is a summary of what I have tried, along with the broken results. ------------------------------------ /etc/pine.conf: user-domain= use-only-domain-name= Broken result: From: Test Account <"\"test@realloc.net\""@intranet.realloc.net> Note: This seems to be expected behaviour. ------------------------------------ /etc/pine.conf: user-domain= use-only-domain-name=yes Broken result: From: Test Account <"\"test@realloc.net\""@realloc.net> Note: Why did it add "realloc.net" when use-only-domain-name has been set? I think this is a bug. ------------------------------------ /etc/pine.conf: user-domain="" use-only-domain-name= Broken result: From: Test Account <"\"test@realloc.net\""@intranet.realloc.net> Note: The appended domain "intranet.realloc.net" is not equal to the empty string specified in my user-domain setting. I think this is a bug. ------------------------------------ /etc/pine.conf: user-domain="" use-only-domain-name=yes Broken result: From: Test Account <"\"test@realloc.net\""@realloc.net> Note: First, I have specified a user-domain setting (albeit of empty string), so the use-only-domain-name setting should not even be considered at all. And yet changing it to "yes" from the last test changes the resulting behaviour. And the resulting behaviour does in fact add a domain anyway. I think this is a bug. ------------------------------------ I have also tried all four combinations of empty user-domain and "yes" for use-only-domain-name in the user's personal .pinerc, with the same results. Finally, here's an interesting tidbit: If I change this line in /etc/hosts: 63.251.164.134 intranet intranet.realloc.net to read this: 63.251.164.134 intranet ...then I get some funky behaviour: ------------------------------------ /etc/pine.conf: user-domain= use-only-domain-name= Broken result: From: Test Account <"\"test@realloc.net\""@realloc.net> ------------------------------------ /etc/pine.conf: user-domain="" use-only-domain-name= Broken result: From: Test Account <"\"test@realloc.net\""@realloc.net> ------------------------------------ /etc/pine.conf: user-domain= use-only-domain-name=yes Broken result: From: Test Account <"\"test@realloc.net\""@net> Note: Error Message upon launch: "Incomplete mail domain .net" ------------------------------------ /etc/pine.conf: user-domain="" use-only-domain-name=yes Broken result: From: Test Account <"\"test@realloc.net\""@net> Note: Error Message upon launch: "Incomplete mail domain .net" ------------------------------------ Where is it getting "net" for the domain? Besides the contrary-to-documentation domain behaviour, there is also the problem that Pine demands on putting quotes around the local part, presumably because of the '@' character. I know that my system is not the only IMAP-based setup that uses the email address as the login name, so I think this needs to be fixed. Hopefully I have misunderstood the Pine docs, and somebody can recommend a config that will work for my users. But if not, then some options would be: 1. New setting called "from-address", which lets the user specify whatever they want in the From: field. Example: from-address="Test Account " 2. New setting called "user-local-part", which is a complement to the "user-domain". Example: user-domain="realloc.net" user-local-part="test" 3. Change the existing behaviour to: (a) Honour an empty "user-domain" setting, like it's supposed to (b) Not add a domain when "use-only-domain-name=yes" (c) Not quote the local part when "use-only-domain-name=yes" I am happy to give core Pine developers temporary access to my system for the purposes of troubleshooting. Please email me privately if that is necessary. This is on a Mandrake 9.0-based system running this Mandrake RPM pine-4.50-1.1mdk. I know that's not the latest but the Changelog on the website didn't show any domain-related changes, so I have not upgraded. So, in summary: 1. Can anyone recommend a setting to try? 2. If not, will any of the above fixes be considered for a future Pine release? (Pine is my favorite email program, and yet I cannot offer it to my customers because of this issue.) Thank You, Derek Simkowiak dereks@itsite.com -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 27 Feb 2003 15:03:13 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1RN3CTk023832 for ; Thu, 27 Feb 2003 15:03:12 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1RN38VH013634 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Thu, 27 Feb 2003 15:03:09 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h1RN0jSR091076; Thu, 27 Feb 2003 15:00:45 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.132]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h1RN0FA8017970 for ; Thu, 27 Feb 2003 15:00:15 -0800 Received: from cache.zipcon.net (cache.zipcon.net [209.221.136.11]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h1RN0Dv6029786 for ; Thu, 27 Feb 2003 15:00:13 -0800 Received: (qmail 11399 invoked from network); 27 Feb 2003 23:00:21 -0000 Received: from lsanca1-ar8-174-146.lsanca1.dsl-verizon.net (HELO dev.itsite.com) (4.35.174.146) by itsite.com with SMTP; 27 Feb 2003 23:00:21 -0000 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 18:02:22 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Derek Simkowiak To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Bug with "domain" part In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=I, Probability=1%, Report="IN_REP_TO, RCVD_IN_MULTIHOP_DSBL, RCVD_IN_UNCONFIRMED_DSBL, USER_AGENT_PINE" > My problem is that Pine is Fubaring the From: address. I just found this page: http://www.ii.com/internet/messaging/pine/changing_from/ ...which gave me some new options. For the time being, I can instruct customers to add their own "From:" using customized-hdrs option. Also note that my proposed "user-local-part" seems to be the exact same thing as "user-id" in PC-Pine. 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Switch to Mac/Unix/PC Pine! Info @ www.ii.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On 27 Feb 2003 Derek Simkowiak (dereks@itsite.com) wrote: > > My problem is that Pine is Fubaring the From: address. > > [...] > > > Hopefully I have misunderstood the Pine docs, and somebody can > recommend a config that will work for my users. But if not, then some > options would be: > > 1. New setting called "from-address", which lets the user specify whatever > they want in the From: field. Example: > > from-address="Test Account " > > 2. New setting called "user-local-part", which is a complement to the > "user-domain". Example: > > user-domain="realloc.net" > user-local-part="test" > > 3. Change the existing behaviour to: > > [...] My vote is for your option #2 and it seems like it should be easy to implement because there already exists a user-id variable in PC-Pine. This has been discussed over and over again for years and my #1 Pine wish is for this to be fixed. 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From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 28 Feb 2003 01:18:40 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1S9IdTk010086 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 2003 01:18:39 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1S9IV2n014136 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Fri, 28 Feb 2003 01:18:32 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h1S9GlSR089078; Fri, 28 Feb 2003 01:16:47 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h1S9G1A8022308 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 2003 01:16:01 -0800 Received: from mailout08.sul.t-online.com (mailout08.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.20]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h1S9Fxls001907 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 2003 01:15:59 -0800 Received: from fwd09.sul.t-online.de by mailout08.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 18ogcX-0001dm-01; Fri, 28 Feb 2003 10:15:57 +0100 Received: from birster.net (320090430724-0002@[217.4.210.148]) by fmrl09.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 18ogcR-1DYK8WC; Fri, 28 Feb 2003 10:15:51 +0100 Message-Id: <001701c2df09$f8226aa0$94d204d9@sven> Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 10:15:42 +0100 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Sven Birster" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: PCPine as POP3-Client MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Sender: 320090430724-0002@t-dialin.net X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XIIIIIII, Probability=17%, Report="DEAR_SOMEBODY, PRIORITY_NO_NAME, SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE, SPAM_PHRASE_01_02, __EVITE_CTYPE, __HAS_MIMEOLE, __HAS_MSMAIL_PRI, __HAS_X_PRIORITY" X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XIII, Probability=13%, Report="DEAR_SOMEBODY, SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, USER_AGENT_OE, __EVITE_CTYPE, __HAS_MIMEOLE, __HAS_MSMAIL_PRI, __HAS_OUTLOOK_IN_MAILER, __HAS_X_MAILER, __HAS_X_PRIORITY" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Dear Readers, After having to change to Windows (from Linux) I want to keep Pine as Mailreader as I love it. Now I face the question how to enable Pine to read the Mails from my local POP3-Server (www.janaserver.de), that works fine with all other POP3-Clients and that picks my Internet-Mail from my ISProvider. I was looking for an answer in the archieves, but I could only access the last 100 days... best regards, Sven Birster -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 28 Feb 2003 07:42:20 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1SFgJTk021876; Fri, 28 Feb 2003 07:42:20 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1SFgDsV022285 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Fri, 28 Feb 2003 07:42:13 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h1SFeKSR090830; Fri, 28 Feb 2003 07:40:21 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.132]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h1SFdUA8031044 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 2003 07:39:30 -0800 Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h1SFdOv6006454 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 2003 07:39:25 -0800 Received: from goedel1.math.washington.edu (goedel1.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.10]) by euler.math.washington.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h1SFdOq507255; Fri, 28 Feb 2003 07:39:24 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 07:39:24 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Eduardo Chappa To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Bug with "domain" part In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Derek Simkowiak X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN *** Derek Simkowiak (dereks@itsite.com) wrote in the pine-info list on Feb...: :) > My problem is that Pine is Fubaring the From: address. :) :) I just found this page: :) :) http://www.ii.com/internet/messaging/pine/changing_from/ :) :) ...which gave me some new options. For the time being, I can :) instruct customers to add their own "From:" using customized-hdrs :) option. Hello Derek, You can add a customized header like customized-hdrs = From: <$LOGNAME> to /etc/pine.conf. If you can get their personal name into an enviroment variable then you can construct a better from field. -- Eduardo http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/ From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 28 Feb 2003 08:12:01 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1SGC0Tk022678; Fri, 28 Feb 2003 08:12:00 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1SGBr2n024617 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Fri, 28 Feb 2003 08:11:53 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h1SG9eZD014896; Fri, 28 Feb 2003 08:09:41 -0800 Received: from mxu7.u.washington.edu (mxu7.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.165]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h1SG95A8040632 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 2003 08:09:05 -0800 Received: from moultrie.cse.sc.edu (moultrie.cse.sc.edu [129.252.138.7]) by mxu7.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h1SG8vLr016977 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 2003 08:08:57 -0800 Received: from rigel (rigel.cse.sc.edu [129.252.130.115]) by moultrie.cse.sc.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86C321E4CF for ; Fri, 28 Feb 2003 11:08:56 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 10:08:56 -0600 (CST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Gopi Sundaram To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: PCPine as POP3-Client In-Reply-To: <001701c2df09$f8226aa0$94d204d9@sven> References: <001701c2df09$f8226aa0$94d204d9@sven> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: gopalan@rigel X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Fri, 28 Feb 2003, Sven Birster wrote: > Now I face the question how to enable Pine to read the Mails from > my local POP3-Server (www.janaserver.de), FAQ. http://www.zrox.net/Mail/Pine/read.html#pop3 -- Gopi Sundaram http://www.zrox.net/Mail/Pine/ From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 28 Feb 2003 08:54:01 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1SGs0Tk024335; Fri, 28 Feb 2003 08:54:00 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1SGrpsV024749 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Fri, 28 Feb 2003 08:53:51 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h1SGptSR085382; Fri, 28 Feb 2003 08:51:55 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h1SGpDA8057514 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 2003 08:51:13 -0800 Received: from mailout05.sul.t-online.com (mailout05.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.82]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h1SGoxa8008187 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 2003 08:51:05 -0800 Received: from fwd04.sul.t-online.de by mailout05.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 18oniq-0005hj-00; Fri, 28 Feb 2003 17:50:56 +0100 Received: from birster.net (320090430724-0002@[217.4.205.235]) by fmrl04.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 18onia-1Py01oC; Fri, 28 Feb 2003 17:50:40 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 17:43:53 +0100 (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=28MEZ=29_Mitteleurop=E4ische_Zeit?=) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Sven Birster To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: PCPine as POP3-Client In-Reply-To: References: <001701c2df09$f8226aa0$94d204d9@sven> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Gopi Sundaram X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: sven@[192.168.78.2] X-Sender: 320090430724-0002@t-dialin.net X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Fri, 28 Feb 2003, Gopi Sundaram wrote: > On Fri, 28 Feb 2003, Sven Birster wrote: > > > Now I face the question how to enable Pine to read the Mails from > > my local POP3-Server (www.janaserver.de), > > FAQ. > > http://www.zrox.net/Mail/Pine/read.html#pop3 .pinerc: inbox-path={my.pop2.server/user=MyLogin/pop3}INBOX Thanks, Sven -- *********************************************************** Sven Birster - Wallstr. 5 - 72250 Freudenstadt - Allemagne fon: 0049-7441-892548 gsm: 0049-179-2026186 fax: 0049-89-244312665 elma: sven@birster.net http://birster.net *********************************************************** From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 28 Feb 2003 12:18:28 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1SKISTk000346; Fri, 28 Feb 2003 12:18:28 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h1SKIKsV032413 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Fri, 28 Feb 2003 12:18:21 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h1SKGPZD029756; Fri, 28 Feb 2003 12:16:25 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h1SKFjA8040130 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 2003 12:15:45 -0800 Received: from cache.zipcon.net (cache.zipcon.net [209.221.136.11]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h1SKFga8009760 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 2003 12:15:42 -0800 Received: (qmail 21322 invoked from network); 28 Feb 2003 20:15:53 -0000 Received: from lsanca1-ar8-174-146.lsanca1.dsl-verizon.net (HELO dev.itsite.com) (4.35.174.146) by itsite.com with SMTP; 28 Feb 2003 20:15:53 -0000 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 15:17:54 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Derek Simkowiak To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Bug with "domain" part In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Eduardo Chappa X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN > You can add a customized header like > > customized-hdrs = From: <$LOGNAME> > > to /etc/pine.conf. If you can get their personal name into an enviroment > variable then you can construct a better from field. This is cool! Thanks for the tip. I didn't realize one could use shell vars in the pine.conf. Where can I find technical documentation on pine.conf/.pinerc? Thanks, Derek Simkowiak