From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Tue Sep 1 06:55:02 1998 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 06:55:02 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id GAA31090 for ; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 06:55:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id GAA05107; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 06:54:57 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id GAA15746; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 06:54:23 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id GAA68028 for ; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 06:51:56 -0700 Received: from mcis.messiah.edu (root@mcis.messiah.edu [153.42.16.1]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id GAA22036 for ; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 06:51:55 -0700 Received: from mcis.messiah.edu (gw1.messiah.edu [153.42.16.15]) by mcis.messiah.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id JAA29337 for ; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 09:50:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from MC-DOMAIN-Message_Server by mcis.messiah.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 01 Sep 1998 09:51:45 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 01 Sep 1998 09:51:19 -0400 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Julie Foster To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Problem with deleting messages from INBOX Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN We are having similar problems with our system, although we do have quotas set up. We have a UnixWare 7 box. When those users who are over their quotas use PC-Pine to connect via imapd, they are told that their mailbox is open by another process. Their mailbox then becomes read-only and they cannot delete any messages to get them back under their quota. There appears to be plenty of space on all filesystems. Is there a temporary file that pine creates in the user's space when starting up, and if so is there a way to place this file in a different location (i.e. on another file system)? Any suggestions?? Thanks! Julie Foster jfoster@messiah.edu Messiah College From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Tue Sep 1 08:20:20 1998 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 08:20:20 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA08253 for ; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 08:20:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id IAA18027; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 08:20:13 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id IAA20322; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 08:19:41 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id IAA68392 for ; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 08:16:34 -0700 Received: from ACAD.LVC.EDU (acad.lvc.edu [207.87.96.2]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id IAA10919 for ; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 08:16:33 -0700 Received: from default.lvc.edu ([207.87.97.244]) by ACAD.LVC.EDU with SMTP; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 11:14:17 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980901111408.007a6ac0@mail.lvc.edu> Date: Tue, 01 Sep 1998 11:14:08 -0400 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Sheryl A. Lemma" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Interference with Pine Attachments? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-To: wu-ftpd@wugate.wustl.edu, pine-info@u.washington.edu X-Sender: lemma@mail.lvc.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi, We've successfully installed wu-ftp with 90% of our system users chroot'ed to their own directory. Ftp is now shored up exactly as we need it to be. However, Pine Mail is failing to attach files with the messages: When trying to attach, this message comes up: [ Problem attaching: /usr/users/students/a_ziffel/./JIMNJILL.jpg ] After moving from the attachment area, this message appears: [ Attachments allowed only from /usr/users/students/a_ziffel/./ ] I've unsuccessfully searched the archives of both Pine and WU-FTP to find the answer to this problem. What do I need to do to fix this? Thanks in advance, Sheryl Lemma % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % Sheryl A. Lemma Internet: lemma@lvc.edu % % Assistant Director Voice: (717)867-6060 % % Administrative Computing FAX: (717)867-6019 % % % % L E B A N O N V A L L E Y C O L L E G E % % % % DEC Unix 3.2d/4.0D, Coll: Live 14v5, Dev 16, Ben: Live 4.3, Dev 5.0 % % % % Visit my Personal Web Page at % % http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Plains/4407/index.html % % % % Never underestimate the power of a smile! % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Tue Sep 1 08:50:00 1998 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 08:49:59 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA00959 for ; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 08:49:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id IAA18917; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 08:49:54 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id IAA03309; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 08:49:27 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id IAA68548 for ; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 08:46:21 -0700 Received: from stoadmin.auxserv.duke.edu (stoadmin.auxserv.duke.edu [152.3.191.144]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id IAA14375 for ; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 08:46:20 -0700 Received: from stoadmin.auxserv.duke.edu by stoadmin.auxserv.duke.edu id aa02953; 1 Sep 98 11:43 EDT Message-Id: Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 11:43:12 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: George McConnell To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Interference with Pine Attachments? In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19980901111408.007a6ac0@mail.lvc.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Sheryl A. Lemma" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN > When trying to attach, this message comes up: > [ Problem attaching: /usr/users/students/a_ziffel/./JIMNJILL.jpg ] it sounds like you need to check the permissions of the file and/or directory you are trying to attach. > After moving from the attachment area, this message appears: > [ Attachments allowed only from /usr/users/students/a_ziffel/./ ] again, sounds like a permissions problem. -- In the force if Yoda's so strong, construct a sentence with words in the proper order then why can't he? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Tue Sep 1 09:00:34 1998 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 09:00:34 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA08767 for ; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 09:00:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id JAA07864; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 09:00:26 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id IAA20045; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 08:59:56 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id IAA43508 for ; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 08:57:08 -0700 Received: from ACAD.LVC.EDU (acad.lvc.edu [207.87.96.2]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id IAA26369 for ; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 08:57:07 -0700 Received: from default.lvc.edu ([207.87.97.244]) by ACAD.LVC.EDU with SMTP; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 11:54:51 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980901115441.007ee230@mail.lvc.edu> Date: Tue, 01 Sep 1998 11:54:41 -0400 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Sheryl A. Lemma" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Interference with Pine Attachments? In-Reply-To: References: <3.0.5.32.19980901111408.007a6ac0@mail.lvc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-To: George McConnell X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: lemma@mail.lvc.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN George, The test file (as with the other test files) is readable, writable and executable by all. Permissions do not appear to be the problem. I have a strong feeling it is the chroot, since everything was working up until we installed ftp. Sheryl At 11:43 AM 9/1/98 -0400, George McConnell wrote: >> When trying to attach, this message comes up: >> [ Problem attaching: /usr/users/students/a_ziffel/./JIMNJILL.jpg ] > >it sounds like you need to check the permissions of the file and/or >directory you are trying to attach. > >> After moving from the attachment area, this message appears: >> [ Attachments allowed only from /usr/users/students/a_ziffel/./ ] > >again, sounds like a permissions problem. > >-- >In the force if Yoda's so strong, construct a sentence with words in >the proper order then why can't he? > > % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % Sheryl A. Lemma Internet: lemma@lvc.edu % % Assistant Director Voice: (717)867-6060 % % Administrative Computing FAX: (717)867-6019 % % % % L E B A N O N V A L L E Y C O L L E G E % % % % DEC Unix 3.2d/4.0D, Coll: Live 14v5, Dev 16, Ben: Live 4.3, Dev 5.0 % % % % Visit my Personal Web Page at % % http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Plains/4407/index.html % % % % Never underestimate the power of a smile! % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Tue Sep 1 09:37:35 1998 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 09:37:34 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA09699 for ; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 09:37:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id JAA20754; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 09:37:29 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id JAA05369; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 09:37:02 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id JAA68570 for ; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 09:33:47 -0700 Received: from uu7.psi.com (uu7.psi.com [38.8.39.2]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id JAA30742 for ; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 09:33:46 -0700 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by uu7.psi.com (8.8.8/4.0.940727-PSI/PSINet) with UUCP id QAA01930 for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 16:30:55 GMT Received: from jrmusic by jandr.com (8.6.13/200.19.1.1) id MAA27338; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 12:24:34 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 12:24:34 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Joe DiBenedetto To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Interference with Pine Attachments? In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19980901111408.007a6ac0@mail.lvc.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Sheryl A. Lemma" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: joed@jrmusic X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Sheryl, What about the '/./' at the end of the path? Perhaps that's a config problem in wu-ftp that's throwing Pine? Joe:D ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Joe DiBenedetto 23 Park Row Tel: 212-238-9010 Director of MIS 4th Floor Fax: 212-238-9127 J&R Electronics New York, NY 10038-2305 E-mail: joed@jandr.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Tue, 1 Sep 1998, Sheryl A. Lemma wrote: > Hi, > > We've successfully installed wu-ftp with 90% of our system users chroot'ed > to their own directory. Ftp is now shored up exactly as we need it to be. > However, Pine Mail is failing to attach files with the messages: > > When trying to attach, this message comes up: > [ Problem attaching: /usr/users/students/a_ziffel/./JIMNJILL.jpg ] > > After moving from the attachment area, this message appears: > [ Attachments allowed only from /usr/users/students/a_ziffel/./ ] > > I've unsuccessfully searched the archives of both Pine and WU-FTP to find > the answer to this problem. What do I need to do to fix this? > > Thanks in advance, > > Sheryl Lemma > > > % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % > % Sheryl A. Lemma Internet: lemma@lvc.edu % > % Assistant Director Voice: (717)867-6060 % > % Administrative Computing FAX: (717)867-6019 % > % % > % L E B A N O N V A L L E Y C O L L E G E % > % % > % DEC Unix 3.2d/4.0D, Coll: Live 14v5, Dev 16, Ben: Live 4.3, Dev 5.0 % > % % > % Visit my Personal Web Page at % > % http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Plains/4407/index.html % > % % > % Never underestimate the power of a smile! % > % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Tue Sep 1 14:19:14 1998 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 14:19:14 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA15271 for ; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 14:19:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id OAA16732; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 14:19:04 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id OAA15019; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 14:17:58 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id OAA63168 for ; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 14:14:25 -0700 Received: from ACAD.LVC.EDU (acad.lvc.edu [207.87.96.2]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id OAA11497 for ; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 14:14:22 -0700 Received: from default.lvc.edu ([207.87.97.244]) by ACAD.LVC.EDU with SMTP; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 17:12:16 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980901171211.00805560@mail.lvc.edu> Date: Tue, 01 Sep 1998 17:12:11 -0400 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Sheryl A. Lemma" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Interference with Pine Attachments? In-Reply-To: References: <3.0.5.32.19980901111408.007a6ac0@mail.lvc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-To: Joe DiBenedetto X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: lemma@mail.lvc.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Joe, Ay, there's the rub. The /./ is the chroot command included in the passwd entry that restricts the user to his/her own directory for ftp purposes. Works wonderfully for keeping nosy little students from getting the /etc/passwd file. Based on the answers I've received, it seems that no one is using Pine in conjunction with wu-ftp. Is this really the case? If so, what are other schools/institutions doing to restrict access to the password file? Sheryl At 12:24 PM 9/1/98 -0400, Joe DiBenedetto wrote: >Sheryl, > >What about the '/./' at the end of the path? Perhaps that's a config >problem in wu-ftp that's throwing Pine? > >Joe:D >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- >Joe DiBenedetto 23 Park Row Tel: 212-238-9010 >Director of MIS 4th Floor Fax: 212-238-9127 >J&R Electronics New York, NY 10038-2305 E-mail: joed@jandr.com >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- > > >On Tue, 1 Sep 1998, Sheryl A. Lemma wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> We've successfully installed wu-ftp with 90% of our system users chroot'ed >> to their own directory. Ftp is now shored up exactly as we need it to be. >> However, Pine Mail is failing to attach files with the messages: >> >> When trying to attach, this message comes up: >> [ Problem attaching: /usr/users/students/a_ziffel/./JIMNJILL.jpg ] >> >> After moving from the attachment area, this message appears: >> [ Attachments allowed only from /usr/users/students/a_ziffel/./ ] >> >> I've unsuccessfully searched the archives of both Pine and WU-FTP to find >> the answer to this problem. What do I need to do to fix this? >> >> Thanks in advance, >> >> Sheryl Lemma >> >> >> % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % >> % Sheryl A. Lemma Internet: lemma@lvc.edu % >> % Assistant Director Voice: (717)867-6060 % >> % Administrative Computing FAX: (717)867-6019 % >> % % >> % L E B A N O N V A L L E Y C O L L E G E % >> % % >> % DEC Unix 3.2d/4.0D, Coll: Live 14v5, Dev 16, Ben: Live 4.3, Dev 5.0 % >> % % >> % Visit my Personal Web Page at % >> % http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Plains/4407/index.html % >> % % >> % Never underestimate the power of a smile! % >> % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % >> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------- >> For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: >> http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ >> ----------------------------------------------------------------- >> > % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % Sheryl A. Lemma Internet: lemma@lvc.edu % % Assistant Director Voice: (717)867-6060 % % Administrative Computing FAX: (717)867-6019 % % % % L E B A N O N V A L L E Y C O L L E G E % % % % DEC Unix 3.2d/4.0D, Coll: Live 14v5, Dev 16, Ben: Live 4.3, Dev 5.0 % % % % Visit my Personal Web Page at % % http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Plains/4407/index.html % % % % Never underestimate the power of a smile! % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Tue Sep 1 17:02:41 1998 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 17:02:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA03944 for ; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 17:02:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id RAA21318; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 17:02:35 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id RAA10319; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 17:02:06 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id QAA43372 for ; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 16:59:37 -0700 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.a.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id QAA03787 for ; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 16:59:35 -0700 Received: from edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 07:59:07 +0800 Message-Id: <000401bdd604$731940d0$1511b381@edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com> Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 07:58:43 +0800 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Ed Greshko" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: RE: Interference with Pine Attachments? In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19980901171211.00805560@mail.lvc.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: "Sheryl A. Lemma" X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Sheryl, > Ay, there's the rub. The /./ is the chroot command included in the passwd > entry that restricts the user to his/her own directory for ftp purposes. > Works wonderfully for keeping nosy little students from getting the > /etc/passwd file. > > Based on the answers I've received, it seems that no one is using Pine in > conjunction with wu-ftp. Is this really the case? If so, what are other > schools/institutions doing to restrict access to the password file? Are you looking to restrict access to the password file because you don't want everyone to know who else has an account or is it because you don't want folks running "crack" against the file. If it is the latter then you should determine if your system can run with a "shadow" password file. The put the password in a file called "shadow" which is not readable. Most systems these days run in that manner. Some need to be coaxed into that configuration. Regards, Ed From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Wed Sep 2 05:36:24 1998 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 05:36:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id FAA13479 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 05:36:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id FAA14423; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 05:36:18 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id FAA18847; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 05:35:20 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id FAA69280 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 05:32:54 -0700 Received: from ACAD.LVC.EDU (acad.lvc.edu [207.87.96.2]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id FAA04818 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 05:32:53 -0700 Received: from default.lvc.edu ([207.87.97.244]) by ACAD.LVC.EDU with SMTP; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 8:30:47 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980902083039.007c7d60@mail.lvc.edu> Date: Wed, 02 Sep 1998 08:30:39 -0400 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Sheryl A. Lemma" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: RE: Interference with Pine Attachments? In-Reply-To: <000401bdd604$731940d0$1511b381@edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com> References: <3.0.5.32.19980901171211.00805560@mail.lvc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-To: "Ed Greshko" X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Sender: lemma@mail.lvc.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi Ed (and Joe, who asked the same question), We are restricting the password file because we cannot run shadowed passwords. The same machine that holds our student accounts also holds our Library system (Unicorn, from Sirsi). Sirsi won't work with shadowed passwords. Great software, huh? Anyway, outside of moving all student accounts to another machine (for which we don't have the money) we are stuck with our current setup. Over the past few months, we had problems with the password file being both ftp'd and pulled into Pine either as text or an attachment. We have plugged the Pine holes (very easy), and this summer we installed wu-ftp for the ftp protection. Basically, the ftp program works by doing a chroot in the passwd file so that a person sees his/her directory as the top level directory. Any attempts to cd out of the directory will just be an error, because the ftp sees this directory as the root directory. There's only one catch ... in order to do listing, you must provide a statically linked copy (or hard-link to such) of the ls program in each home directory. This is only for the ftp program, though. All of our other programs work if using a telnet session; with, of course, the exception of the Pine attachments. No one else is really using this combination, huh? Thanks for the continuous feedback (I have yet to hear from the wu-ftp list), Sheryl At 07:58 AM 9/2/98 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: >Sheryl, > >> Ay, there's the rub. The /./ is the chroot command included in the passwd >> entry that restricts the user to his/her own directory for ftp purposes. >> Works wonderfully for keeping nosy little students from getting the >> /etc/passwd file. >> >> Based on the answers I've received, it seems that no one is using Pine in >> conjunction with wu-ftp. Is this really the case? If so, what are other >> schools/institutions doing to restrict access to the password file? > >Are you looking to restrict access to the password file because you don't >want everyone to know who else has an account or is it because you don't >want folks running "crack" against the file. If it is the latter then you >should determine if your system can run with a "shadow" password file. The >put the password in a file called "shadow" which is not readable. Most >systems these days run in that manner. Some need to be coaxed into that >configuration. > >Regards, >Ed > > > % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % Sheryl A. Lemma Internet: lemma@lvc.edu % % Assistant Director Voice: (717)867-6060 % % Administrative Computing FAX: (717)867-6019 % % % % L E B A N O N V A L L E Y C O L L E G E % % % % DEC Unix 3.2d/4.0D, Coll: Live 14v5, Dev 16, Ben: Live 4.3, Dev 5.0 % % % % Visit my Personal Web Page at % % http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Plains/4407/index.html % % % % Never underestimate the power of a smile! % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Wed Sep 2 06:53:46 1998 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 06:53:46 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id GAA13736 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 06:53:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id GAA15487; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 06:53:38 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id GAA21379; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 06:53:08 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id GAA54994 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 06:51:41 -0700 Received: from uu7.psi.com (uu7.psi.com [38.8.39.2]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id GAA31423 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 06:51:38 -0700 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by uu7.psi.com (8.8.8/4.0.940727-PSI/PSINet) with UUCP id NAA13848 for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 13:51:31 GMT Received: from jrmusic by jandr.com (8.6.13/200.19.1.1) id JAA06964; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 09:48:41 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 09:48:41 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Joe DiBenedetto To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: RE: Interference with Pine Attachments? In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19980902083039.007c7d60@mail.lvc.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Sheryl A. Lemma" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: joed@jrmusic X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Sheryl, No, I don't think too many people are using that combo. Speaking of links, what if you put a symbolic link to the directory where the pine attachments are? Maybe that would help? Joe:D On Wed, 2 Sep 1998, Sheryl A. Lemma wrote: > Hi Ed (and Joe, who asked the same question), > > We are restricting the password file because we cannot run shadowed > passwords. The same machine that holds our student accounts also holds our > Library system (Unicorn, from Sirsi). Sirsi won't work with shadowed > passwords. Great software, huh? > > Anyway, outside of moving all student accounts to another machine (for > which we don't have the money) we are stuck with our current setup. > > Over the past few months, we had problems with the password file being both > ftp'd and pulled into Pine either as text or an attachment. We have plugged > the Pine holes (very easy), and this summer we installed wu-ftp for the ftp > protection. Basically, the ftp program works by doing a chroot in the > passwd file so that a person sees his/her directory as the top level > directory. Any attempts to cd out of the directory will just be an error, > because the ftp sees this directory as the root directory. There's only one > catch ... in order to do listing, you must provide a statically linked copy > (or hard-link to such) of the ls program in each home directory. This is > only for the ftp program, though. All of our other programs work if using a > telnet session; with, of course, the exception of the Pine attachments. > > No one else is really using this combination, huh? > > Thanks for the continuous feedback (I have yet to hear from the wu-ftp list), > > Sheryl > > At 07:58 AM 9/2/98 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > >Sheryl, > > > >> Ay, there's the rub. The /./ is the chroot command included in the passwd > >> entry that restricts the user to his/her own directory for ftp purposes. > >> Works wonderfully for keeping nosy little students from getting the > >> /etc/passwd file. > >> > >> Based on the answers I've received, it seems that no one is using Pine in > >> conjunction with wu-ftp. Is this really the case? If so, what are other > >> schools/institutions doing to restrict access to the password file? > > > >Are you looking to restrict access to the password file because you don't > >want everyone to know who else has an account or is it because you don't > >want folks running "crack" against the file. If it is the latter then you > >should determine if your system can run with a "shadow" password file. The > >put the password in a file called "shadow" which is not readable. Most > >systems these days run in that manner. Some need to be coaxed into that > >configuration. > > > >Regards, > >Ed > > > > > > > > % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % > % Sheryl A. Lemma Internet: lemma@lvc.edu % > % Assistant Director Voice: (717)867-6060 % > % Administrative Computing FAX: (717)867-6019 % > % % > % L E B A N O N V A L L E Y C O L L E G E % > % % > % DEC Unix 3.2d/4.0D, Coll: Live 14v5, Dev 16, Ben: Live 4.3, Dev 5.0 % > % % > % Visit my Personal Web Page at % > % http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Plains/4407/index.html % > % % > % Never underestimate the power of a smile! % > % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Wed Sep 2 07:40:34 1998 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 07:40:34 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA32628 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 07:40:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id HAA04278; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 07:40:28 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id HAA29957; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 07:40:01 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id HAA15366 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 07:38:26 -0700 Received: from cadmus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (cadmus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk [195.7.224.29]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id HAA13334 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 07:38:24 -0700 Received: from andromeda.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (andromeda.hosts.netdirect.net.uk [195.7.224.147]) by cadmus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1/Debian/GNU) with SMTP id PAA08885; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 15:38:15 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 15:38:15 +0100 (BST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Russell Heilling To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: RE: Interference with Pine Attachments? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Joe DiBenedetto X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: russellh@andromeda.hosts.netdirect.net.uk X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Wed, 2 Sep 1998, Joe DiBenedetto wrote: > Sheryl, > > No, I don't think too many people are using that combo. > > Speaking of links, what if you put a symbolic link to the directory where > the pine attachments are? Maybe that would help? > > Joe:D > If the destination is outside the chrooted area then a symbolic link won't work, but a hard link would. > On Wed, 2 Sep 1998, Sheryl A. Lemma wrote: > > > Hi Ed (and Joe, who asked the same question), > > > > We are restricting the password file because we cannot run shadowed > > passwords. The same machine that holds our student accounts also holds our > > Library system (Unicorn, from Sirsi). Sirsi won't work with shadowed > > passwords. Great software, huh? > > > > Anyway, outside of moving all student accounts to another machine (for > > which we don't have the money) we are stuck with our current setup. > > > > Over the past few months, we had problems with the password file being both > > ftp'd and pulled into Pine either as text or an attachment. We have plugged > > the Pine holes (very easy), and this summer we installed wu-ftp for the ftp > > protection. Basically, the ftp program works by doing a chroot in the > > passwd file so that a person sees his/her directory as the top level > > directory. Any attempts to cd out of the directory will just be an error, > > because the ftp sees this directory as the root directory. There's only one > > catch ... in order to do listing, you must provide a statically linked copy > > (or hard-link to such) of the ls program in each home directory. This is > > only for the ftp program, though. All of our other programs work if using a > > telnet session; with, of course, the exception of the Pine attachments. > > > > No one else is really using this combination, huh? > > > > Thanks for the continuous feedback (I have yet to hear from the wu-ftp list), > > > > Sheryl > > > > At 07:58 AM 9/2/98 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > > >Sheryl, > > > > > >> Ay, there's the rub. The /./ is the chroot command included in the passwd > > >> entry that restricts the user to his/her own directory for ftp purposes. > > >> Works wonderfully for keeping nosy little students from getting the > > >> /etc/passwd file. > > >> > > >> Based on the answers I've received, it seems that no one is using Pine in > > >> conjunction with wu-ftp. Is this really the case? If so, what are other > > >> schools/institutions doing to restrict access to the password file? > > > > > >Are you looking to restrict access to the password file because you don't > > >want everyone to know who else has an account or is it because you don't > > >want folks running "crack" against the file. If it is the latter then you > > >should determine if your system can run with a "shadow" password file. The > > >put the password in a file called "shadow" which is not readable. Most > > >systems these days run in that manner. Some need to be coaxed into that > > >configuration. > > > > > >Regards, > > >Ed > > > > > > > > > > > > > % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % > > % Sheryl A. Lemma Internet: lemma@lvc.edu % > > % Assistant Director Voice: (717)867-6060 % > > % Administrative Computing FAX: (717)867-6019 % > > % % > > % L E B A N O N V A L L E Y C O L L E G E % > > % % > > % DEC Unix 3.2d/4.0D, Coll: Live 14v5, Dev 16, Ben: Live 4.3, Dev 5.0 % > > % % > > % Visit my Personal Web Page at % > > % http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Plains/4407/index.html % > > % % > > % Never underestimate the power of a smile! % > > % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % > > > -- Russell Heilling -- Technical Manager -- NetDirect Internet Ltd Tel: +441812937000 email: russellh@netdirect.net.uk Fax: +441812936000 "That which doesn't kill you will make you bitter and cynical" From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Wed Sep 2 08:05:56 1998 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 08:05:56 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA00678 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 08:05:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id IAA16893; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 08:05:50 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id IAA01128; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 08:05:30 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id IAA71934 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 08:04:03 -0700 Received: from ACAD.LVC.EDU (acad.lvc.edu [207.87.96.2]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id IAA04926 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 08:04:02 -0700 Received: from default.lvc.edu ([207.87.97.244]) by ACAD.LVC.EDU with SMTP; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 11:01:53 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980902110147.007c8950@mail.lvc.edu> Date: Wed, 02 Sep 1998 11:01:47 -0400 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Sheryl A. Lemma" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: RE: Interference with Pine Attachments? In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-To: Russell Heilling X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: lemma@mail.lvc.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN At 03:38 PM 9/2/98 +0100, Russell Heilling wrote: >If the destination is outside the chrooted area then a symbolic link won't >work, but a hard link would. That's the problem ... the destination shouldn't be outside the chrooted area. A student cannot attach anything even in his own directory! When you ^J, ^T and look in Pine, you can see the files in your home directory. It's just that when you select it, it gives the problem attaching message ( [ Problem attaching: /usr/users/a_ziffel/./JIMNJILL.jpg ] ), then when you move past the attachment line, it tells you ( [ Attachments allowed only from /usr/users/students/a_ziffel/./ ] ). It seems like Pine does not understand the . in the path. Again, many thanks for scratching your collective heads with me on this. Regards, Sheryl P.S. I've now posted to FOUR lists with this problem ... if I ever do get the answer to this and it's not from this list, I'll be sure to post it! :) % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % Sheryl A. Lemma Internet: lemma@lvc.edu % % Assistant Director Voice: (717)867-6060 % % Administrative Computing FAX: (717)867-6019 % % % % L E B A N O N V A L L E Y C O L L E G E % % % % DEC Unix 3.2d/4.0D, Coll: Live 14v5, Dev 16, Ben: Live 4.3, Dev 5.0 % % % % Visit my Personal Web Page at % % http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Plains/4407/index.html % % % % Never underestimate the power of a smile! % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Wed Sep 2 08:30:46 1998 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 08:30:46 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA32386 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 08:30:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id IAA17545; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 08:30:39 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id IAA24597; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 08:17:17 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id IAA54796 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 08:15:59 -0700 Received: from webster (webster.vetri.com [198.153.135.140]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id IAA06157 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 08:15:58 -0700 Received: from spike by webster (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id LAA05880; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 11:18:57 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 11:17:16 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: Shawn Jeffries Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Shawn Jeffries To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: RE: Interference with Pine Attachments? In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19980902110147.007c8950@mail.lvc.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Sheryl A. Lemma" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: ujefsh81@spike X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Do your users have "use-current-dir" set or unset by default? ----------------------------------------------------------------- FEATURE: use-current-dir This feature controls an aspect of several commands. If set, your "current working directory" (which, at least for your current Pine "session," is "/home/xxxxx") will be used instead of your home directory (which, in the present configuration of your system, is "/home/xxxxx") for all of the following operations: * Export in the MESSAGE INDEX and MESSAGE TEXT screens * Attachment Save in the MESSAGE TEXT and ATTACHMENT TEXT screens * Ctrl-R file inclusion in the COMPOSER * Ctrl-J file attachment in the COMPOSER -------------------------------------------------------- Shawn Jeffries shawn_jeffries@vetri.com On Wed, 2 Sep 1998, Sheryl A. Lemma wrote: >At 03:38 PM 9/2/98 +0100, Russell Heilling wrote: >>If the destination is outside the chrooted area then a symbolic link won't >>work, but a hard link would. > >That's the problem ... the destination shouldn't be outside the chrooted >area. A student cannot attach anything even in his own directory! When you >^J, ^T and look in Pine, you can see the files in your home directory. It's >just that when you select it, it gives the problem attaching message ( [ >Problem attaching: /usr/users/a_ziffel/./JIMNJILL.jpg ] ), then when you >move past the attachment line, it tells you ( [ Attachments allowed only >from /usr/users/students/a_ziffel/./ ] ). > >It seems like Pine does not understand the . in the path. > >Again, many thanks for scratching your collective heads with me on this. > >Regards, > > Sheryl > >P.S. I've now posted to FOUR lists with this problem ... if I ever do get >the answer to this and it's not from this list, I'll be sure to post it! :) > >% % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % >% Sheryl A. Lemma Internet: lemma@lvc.edu % >% Assistant Director Voice: (717)867-6060 % >% Administrative Computing FAX: (717)867-6019 % >% % >% L E B A N O N V A L L E Y C O L L E G E % >% % >% DEC Unix 3.2d/4.0D, Coll: Live 14v5, Dev 16, Ben: Live 4.3, Dev 5.0 % >% % >% Visit my Personal Web Page at % >% http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Plains/4407/index.html % >% % >% Never underestimate the power of a smile! % >% % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Wed Sep 2 09:02:45 1998 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 09:02:44 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA21852 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 09:02:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id JAA06469; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 09:02:39 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id JAA14740; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 09:01:22 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id IAA35978 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 08:58:40 -0700 Received: from orion.ac.hmc.edu (Orion.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.20]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id IAA22020 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 08:58:40 -0700 Received: from localhost (mcope@localhost) by orion.ac.hmc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA10516; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 08:58:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 08:58:34 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Michael Thomas Cope To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Interference with Pine Attachments? In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19980901111408.007a6ac0@mail.lvc.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-559023410-851401618-904751914=:10054" X-To: "Sheryl A. Lemma" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. ---559023410-851401618-904751914=:10054 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 1 Sep 1998, Sheryl A. Lemma wrote: > Hi, > > We've successfully installed wu-ftp with 90% of our system users chroot'ed > to their own directory. Ftp is now shored up exactly as we need it to be. > However, Pine Mail is failing to attach files with the messages: > > When trying to attach, this message comes up: > [ Problem attaching: /usr/users/students/a_ziffel/./JIMNJILL.jpg ] > > After moving from the attachment area, this message appears: > [ Attachments allowed only from /usr/users/students/a_ziffel/./ ] > > I've unsuccessfully searched the archives of both Pine and WU-FTP to find > the answer to this problem. What do I need to do to fix this? > As shown here, I have successfully attached a file from my home directory with my home directory set as you have stated [8:54am] mcope@orion (~/var/log): grep mcope /etc/passwd mcope:x:14870:14750:Michael Thomas Cope:/home/hmc_2000/mcope/./:/usr/local/bin/tcsh This is Pine 4.02 with Solaris 2.6 compiled with gcc 2.8.1. -Mike -- Michael Cope: Harvey Mudd College '00; Armand Hammer UWC '96 E-mail: Michael_Cope@hmc.edu ---559023410-851401618-904751914=:10054 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; name=".forward~" Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64 Content-ID: Content-Description: Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=".forward~" fC91c3IvbG9jYWwvcGtnL2VsbS9iaW4vZmlsdGVyIC8vZXhpdDc1IG1jb3Bl DQo= ---559023410-851401618-904751914=:10054-- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Wed Sep 2 17:32:53 1998 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 17:32:53 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA04843 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 17:32:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id RAA03690; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 17:32:48 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id RAA20887; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 17:32:07 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id RAA43386 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 17:29:16 -0700 Received: from gw-us1new.philips.com (gw-us1new.philips.com [205.167.14.36]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id RAA03626 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 17:29:15 -0700 Received: from smtprelay-us1.philips.com (localhost.philips.com [127.0.0.1]) by gw-us1new.philips.com with ESMTP id UAA18215 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 20:29:14 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from Jeff.Goswick@abq.sc.philips.com) Received: from smtprelay-nam1.philips.com(130.140.196.208) by gw-us1new.philips.com via mwrap (4.0a) id xma018213; Wed, 2 Sep 98 20:29:14 -0400 Received: from smtphub.sv.sc.philips.com (smtphub.sv.sc.philips.com [130.140.45.86]) by smtprelay-us1.philips.com (8.8.5/8.6.10-1.2.2m-970826) with ESMTP id UAA11023 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 20:29:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtphub.abq.sc.philips.com (smtphub.abq.sc.philips.com [130.140.3.9]) by smtphub.sv.sc.philips.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA07927 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 17:29:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from abqhp1.abq.sc.philips.com (abqhp1.abq.sc.philips.com [130.140.4.1]) by smtphub.abq.sc.philips.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA10350; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 18:29:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from abqhp39.abq.sc.philips.com (abqhp39.abq.sc.philips.com [130.140.4.39]) by abqhp1.abq.sc.philips.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA07478; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 20:29:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (goswick@localhost) by abqhp39.abq.sc.philips.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA02494; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 18:28:23 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 18:28:23 -0600 (MDT) Reply-To: Jeff Goswick Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Jeff Goswick To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: How to send HTML so pine reads it inline. In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19980901115441.007ee230@mail.lvc.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: Jeff.Goswick@abq.sc.philips.com X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Cc: Jeff Goswick X-Authentication-Warning: abqhp39.abq.sc.philips.com: goswick owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I've been trying to send an email with an HTML attachment so that another pine user can read it inline. I'd like to send it as an attachment, not in the body of the message. Pine attaches and sends it fine, but when I CC: myself and read it in Pine, the HTML file can only be read via an external viewer -> the pine viewer won't show it. If I save the message to a folder, then change the attachment's MIME HEADER from: Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="temp.html" to: Content-Disposition: inline; filename="temp.html" then pine shows the attachment inline, as I'd like. Is there anyway to configure pine to do this at send time? (ie. to attach HTML files, or text files in general, as inline attachments so that pine will display them in the normal message display)? How did the Pine developers expect pine users to send HTML so that it is viewable by Pine, attachements or in the message body? Thanks, Jeff ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Wed Sep 2 18:37:20 1998 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 18:37:19 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id SAA11102 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 18:37:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id SAA04713; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 18:37:12 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id SAA20619; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 18:36:39 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id SAA62926 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 18:34:29 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id SAA25268 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 18:34:28 -0700 Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id SAA21543; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 18:34:17 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id SAA23047; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 18:33:19 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id SAA65070 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 18:18:22 -0700 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (shiva1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.201]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id SAA07592 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 18:18:21 -0700 Received: from localhost (mikes@localhost) by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id SAA16054 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 18:18:21 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 18:18:20 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Michael Seibel To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Pine 4.03 now available MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: PINE-ANNOUNCE-owner@u.washington.edu X-To: Pine Announcement List X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN This note is to announce the availability of the Pine Message System version 4.03. It represents not only a maintenance release for UNIX platforms, but marks the debut of a version-4 PC-Pine. As for the maintenance aspect, it introduces a small set of new features, but fixes numerous bugs and annoyances found in the previous 4.x releases. Information on specific changes can be found in the built-in release notes ("R" off the Main Menu), and via: http://www.cac.washington.edu/pine/ and ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/docs/ Source for the latest Pine release is available in: ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pine.tar.Z and ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pine.tar.gz and precompiled binaries for the various systems we have direct access to are available in: ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/unix-bin and ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/unix-bin-compressed The corresponding PC-Pine distribution is available in: ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pcpine/pm403w32.zip As with all Pine releases, it is important that you carefully test and determine for yourself that it performs suitably in your environment before placing Pine into production use. Enjoy! Sincerely, The Pine Development Team ------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/pine-announce.html ------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/pine-announce.html ------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Wed Sep 2 23:05:42 1998 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 23:05:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id XAA12633 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 23:05:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id XAA25045; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 23:05:34 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id XAA06852; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 23:05:02 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id XAA21734 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 23:03:05 -0700 Received: from nov.diac.com (diac.com [209.64.40.2]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id XAA10067 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 23:03:05 -0700 Received: from localhost (ekwall2@localhost) by nov.diac.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA27121; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 06:03:34 GMT Message-Id: Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 00:03:34 -0600 (MDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Steve Ekwall To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: How to send HTML so pine reads it inline. In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Jeff Goswick X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: ekwall2@november X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi Jeff, As it should be! (sigh/grin:) TWO DIFFERENT CRITTERS (like a removable floppy vs a Hard Drive vs a CDROM = data yes, rwxALL=NO!). THANKS Oh, Please please dont' try to M_A_K_E pine be forced to read HTML. HTML doesn't even BELONG in e-mail at all! It has its domain, it has its FUNCTION, but that is like asking, I want to send e-mail with ALL of my data files attached! This neither is a function of e-mail, this is a function of a file transferring feature. ftp etc. Besides slowing down e-mail (html gutted in bulk) It *IS NOT* read or readable by everyone out there ----- All the funny letters just to say THANKS! 2001 FONTS /active on rem kill9 ##########@domain.##?/ :/Interlaced active:GO: THANKS:/"/"interlaced inactive/active OFF Plus it is so much F_U_N and so EASY to read too :) PUSH THANKS Bonus thought:) filter it to ascii folder, or show him how to do that?? and send it, as links (forms/cgi-bin+) will be off-line line anyway and really slow down the net (sigh).. can't you just type in Hey! "go chekc out http://abvc.abc.com *cool site*" Every E-mail I get from Bill Gate'rs out there, that come up I can't display it, I JUST DELETE IT... I already *GET* Enough Junk Mail. Nothing personal against you Jeff (heck I don't even know you ), BUT HTML *Anything* in E-mail is asking for stuffed mailboxes, not speed and global E_MAIL access. Some system restrict the SIZE of each piece of mail already to prevent this, so odds are it might get attached, yet never get through. If you're just trying to show him a *cool* url, point him to it in ascii or add a few keystrokes in your a href="this.is.coolest@abc.co#" <----- Thats all and FAST F_A_S_T! :) Hope this helps, I know , N_O_T Quit your question, BUT, html doesn't belong in e-mail. It belongs in URL's & home pages, & books on HTMLD. -=se=- steve (plus it's really a bear to read for others:) ekwall ekwall2@diac.com -----------snip-------------- On Wed, 2 Sep 1998, Jeff Goswick wrote: I've been trying to send an email with an HTML attachment so that another pine user can read it inline. I'd like to send it as an attachment, not in the body of the message. Pine attaches and sends it fine, but when I CC: myself and read it in Pine, the HTML file can only be read via an external viewer -> the pine viewer won't show it. If I save the message to a folder, then change the attachment's MIME HEADER from: Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="temp.html" to: Content-Disposition: inline; filename="temp.html" then pine shows the attachment inline, as I'd like. Is there anyway to configure pine to do this at send time? (ie. to attach HTML files, or text files in general, as inline attachments so that pine will display them in the normal message display)? How did the Pine developers expect pine users to send HTML so that it is viewable by Pine, attachements or in the message body? Thanks, Jeff ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Thu Sep 3 05:12:11 1998 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 05:12:11 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id FAA21241 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 05:12:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id FAA29563; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 05:12:05 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id FAA07831; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 05:11:39 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id FAA53356 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 05:10:10 -0700 Received: from lambik.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (lambik.cc.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.10.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id FAA23557 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 05:10:09 -0700 Received: from rr (rr.cc.kuleuven.ac.be [10.33.6.27]) by lambik.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (8.9.1a/8.9.0) with SMTP id OAA20695 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 14:10:04 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980903140940.007fe140@mail.cc.kuleuven.ac.be> Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 14:09:40 +0200 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Rudy Rys To: Pine Discussion Forum Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: pop00513@mail.cc.kuleuven.ac.be X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Thu Sep 3 05:27:01 1998 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 05:27:01 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id FAA20221 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 05:27:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id FAA29711; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 05:26:55 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id FAA04105; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 05:26:27 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id FAA62274 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 05:25:06 -0700 Received: from lambik.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (lambik.cc.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.10.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id FAA24194 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 05:25:05 -0700 Received: from rr (rr.cc.kuleuven.ac.be [10.33.6.27]) by lambik.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (8.9.1a/8.9.0) with SMTP id OAA21707 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 14:25:01 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980903142436.007c5d20@mail.cc.kuleuven.ac.be> Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 14:24:36 +0200 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Rudy Rys To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Pruning Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: pop00513@mail.cc.kuleuven.ac.be X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello, I don't know if this is the right channel to ask but anyway here is the question: I'm using PC Pine 3.96 and I have in my pinerc-file set the date of last-time-pruned to 99.12. Still Pine is asking me if I want to prune my folders... and I don't want it. Is this a known feature/bug or should I do something more than just set the date for turning off the feature?? By the way, I'm very delighted with the 4.03 version for PC!!! Greetings, Rudy ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Thu Sep 3 05:58:25 1998 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 05:58:25 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id FAA21454 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 05:58:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id FAA13151; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 05:58:18 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id FAA09217; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 05:57:47 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id FAA36026 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 05:56:23 -0700 Received: from swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net (swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.123]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id FAA25763 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 05:56:23 -0700 Received: from earthlink.net (1Cust239.tnt16.atl2.da.uu.net [153.34.26.239]) by swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA17001 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 05:56:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <35EE917C.8AD1957A@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 08:54:21 -0400 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Jimmy Miller Jr To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Problems installing Pine References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: PINE-INFO Washington University X-Accept-Language: en X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I tried to install in Single user mode and came up with the message below. Anyone have any ideas what could be wrong? cc: Error: Process /usr/ccs/bin/as exited with status 11 *** Error code 11 (bu21) make fatal error. Navin M Rao wrote: > Hi Joe, Jimmy, > > I have the same problem in installing PINE 4.02. The /var file system has > about 120 MB free space during installation and yet I get this fatal error > about the assembler 'as' not being able to allocate 40000 bytes in > /var/tmp. I've noticed that when this error occurs, the freemem parameter > as reported by the command "sar -r 1 5" drops dangerously low to about 100 > bytes. I wonder if this is the real reason for the fatal error. Would > appreciate if any of you can throw light on this. > > In any case I'm going to do the installation this weekend in Single user > mode so that other user processes do not hog memory. I'll get back on my > findings. > > Bye > > Navin M Rao > email: navin.rao@tatainfotech.com, navinmra@tulblr.unisys.com > > On Wed, 19 Aug 1998, Joe DiBenedetto wrote: > > > Jimmy, > > > > Sounds like you need to enlarge your /var filesystem. Ask your system > > administrator to assist (unless you're it, of course). > > > > Joe:D > > > > On Wed, 19 Aug 1998, Jimmy Miller Jr wrote: > > > > > I'm having a problem installing Pine 4.02 on a Unisys U6000 running SVR4 > > > Unix. I'm attaching a piece of the install screen where the problem is > > > displayed. Any help or info would be greatly appreciated. > > > > > > cd ipopd;make > > > cd imapd;make > > > > > > Making Pico and Pilot > > > make CC=cc -f makefile.sv4 > > > > > > Making Pine. > > > make CC=cc -f makefile.sv4 > > > cc -g -DDEBUG -Dconst= -DSV4 -DSYSTYPE=\"SV4\" -DMOUSE -c > > > helptext. > > > c > > > "./../pico/headers.h", line 47: warning: macro redefined: signal > > > /var/tmp/ctm2AAAa001Qn:117308:cannot allocate 40000 bytes: Not enough > > > space > > > /var/tmp/ctm2AAAa001Qn:117308:cannot recover from previous error > > > *** Error code 1 (bu21) > > > > > > make: fatal error. > > > > > > Links to executables are in bin directory: > > > i386size: bin/pine: cannot open > > > bin/mtest: 270249 + 218104 + 7344 = 495697 > > > bin/imapd: 294001 + 222660 + 14604 = 531265 > > > bin/pico: 132794 + 30352 + 8092 = 171238 > > > bin/pilot: 131866 + 29880 + 8092 = 169838 > > > Done > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > > > Jimmy Miller > > > jraymiller@earthlink.net > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > > For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: > > > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Thu Sep 3 07:20:01 1998 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 07:20:01 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA15165 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 07:20:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id HAA01318; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 07:19:55 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id HAA16463; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 07:19:24 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id HAA77228 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 07:16:11 -0700 Received: from palrel1.hp.com (palrel1.hp.com [156.153.255.242]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id HAA25048 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 07:16:10 -0700 Received: from cup46ux.cup.hp.com (daemon@cup46ux.cup.hp.com [15.9.88.31]) by palrel1.hp.com (8.8.6/8.8.5tis) with ESMTP id HAA27279; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 07:16:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sddm0007.sdd.hp.com by cup46ux.cup.hp.com with SMTP (1.37.109.24/15.5+IOS 3.20+cup+OMrelay) id AA272682164; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 07:16:05 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 07:14:53 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Brett Eldridge To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: allow-changing-from In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Ted Rolle X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: beldridg@tool2.home.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Fri, 28 Aug 1998, Ted Rolle wrote: > In Linux/Pine 4.02: > > I'm trying to change my From: address from my ISP to usa.net. > > I've tried every combination but the right one of > allow-changing-from/customized-hdrs in pine.conf.fixed, ~/.pinerc, and > pine.conf. > > Has anyone actually succeeded in doing this? Yes. I have the following as part of the feature-list in the Preferences section of my ~/.pinerc: feature-list=allow-changing-from In addition, you also need to tell pine to add _and_ display by default the From: header. From my ~/.pinerc: # Only show these headers (by default) when composing messages default-composer-hdrs=To:, Cc:, From:, Attchmnt:, Subject:, Fcc: # Add these customized headers (and possible default values) when composing customized-hdrs=From: - brett From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 07:56:35 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA22977 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 07:56:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id HAA15106; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 07:56:28 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id HAA18593; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 07:55:54 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id HAA62874 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 07:52:24 -0700 Received: from gamma.dou.dk (gamma.dou.dk [130.225.130.6]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id HAA28202 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 07:52:22 -0700 Received: from lars.dou.dk (lars.dou.dk [130.225.156.249]) by gamma.dou.dk (8.8.6/8.8.4) with SMTP id QAA19875; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 16:52:17 +0200 (METDST) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 16:52:16 +0200 (DDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Lars Scheffmann To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Pruning In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19980903142436.007c5d20@mail.cc.kuleuven.ac.be> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Rudy Rys X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: scheffmann@mail.dou.dk X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Thu, 3 Sep 1998, Rudy Rys wrote: > I'm using PC Pine 3.96 and I have in my pinerc-file set the date of > last-time-pruned to 99.12. Still Pine is asking me if I want to prune my > folders... and I don't want it. Is this a known feature/bug or should I do > something more than just set the date for turning off the feature?? Can't say, but I have used PC Pine 3.96 for more than a year, without that question. I know it from Unix Pine. I made a standard installation and have never made any changes in pinerc in this area. Today my pinerc looks this way: # Set by Pine; controls beginning-of-month sent-mail pruning. last-time-prune-questioned=98.9 so it update pinerc without any questions! :-) Regards Lars Lars Scheffmann, Network Adm. E-Mail: scheffmann@dou.dk Dept. of Academic Information Technology Phone: +45 6615 8600 ext.2867 DOU, Odense University Direct: +45 6557 2867 Niels Bohrs Alle 11, 5230 Odense M Fax: +45 6612 3366 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 08:48:14 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA23027 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 08:48:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id IAA03404; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 08:48:09 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id IAA21593; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 08:47:42 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id IAA86998 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 08:44:29 -0700 Received: from hermes.mju.es (estafeta.mju.es [195.53.212.34]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id IAA06647 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 08:44:28 -0700 Received: from a.balcells.mju.es (A.BALCELLS [10.12.1.195]) by hermes.mju.es with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.1960.3) id QL09KZ7K; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 18:06:46 +0200 Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 17:45:28 +0200 Message-Id: <01BDD762.A34C5EE0.a.balcells@mju.es> Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 17:45:26 +0200 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Alfonso Balcells To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: PICO editor MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: "'pine-info@u.washington.edu'" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN -----Mensaje original----- De: Alfonso Balcells [SMTP:a.balcells@mju.es] Enviado el: jueves 3 de septiembre de 1998 13:27 Para: 'owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu' Asunto: PICO editor Hello, I have installed Pine 4.02 in system Unix SCO OSR5 in terminal mode, VT220 (without X window) and have questions about PICO editor. I don?t know mark cursor position as beginning of selected text, with the key ^^ . There are that marked the key Ctrl twice, or how? How I do COPY? I can only CUT/UNCUT. What libraries use PICO of PINE ? Can I modify Pico source code (if YES, I will send new source code you)? Use PICO NCURSES library? Thank you in advance. Alfonso Balcells a.balcells@mju.es ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 11:38:28 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA26837 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 11:38:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id LAA21781; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 11:38:23 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id LAA21120; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 11:37:14 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id LAA53586 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 11:35:34 -0700 Received: from all-phase.com (cork.all-phase.com [208.136.204.2]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id LAA22049 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 11:35:33 -0700 Received: from all-phase.com by all-phase.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA16034; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 14:27:49 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 14:38:04 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: Candy Cyr - Br 4e Clerical <04eclcac@all-phase.com> Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Candy Cyr - Br 4e Clerical <04eclcac@all-phase.com> To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: stuck folder (pine 3.96) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: 04eclcac@kirk X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN i received a message from someone else in my company and decided to save it. i saved it as vac/leave time. this name would not take, and it is now called vac/. however, i can not open or delete this folder. when i try to open it i get "select failed: mail/vac/ (file/home/04e/04eclcac/mail/vac/)" what do i need to do to get rid of this message? Thank You, Candy Cyr Br 4E - Lafayette ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 12:24:01 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA28078 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 12:24:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id MAA10043; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 12:23:55 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id MAA27476; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 12:22:55 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id MAA60910 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 12:21:26 -0700 Received: from proxy3.ba.best.com (root@proxy3.ba.best.com [206.184.139.14]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id MAA27749 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 12:21:25 -0700 Received: from [150.202.161.238] ([205.185.16.139]) by proxy3.ba.best.com (8.9.0/8.9.0/best.out) with ESMTP id MAA17609 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 12:19:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 12:18:47 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Jason Tiller To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: PC-Pine 4.03: Taskbar Notification of New Mail? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: jdtiller@shell3.ba.best.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi, All, :) Firstly: *Thank* *you* for PC-Pine 4.03! I haven't gotten into the bevy of new features yet, but I did discover the (perhaps) most important one: it was truly a "drop in." All I did is copy over the old PC-Pine 3.96 files, and *poof* - everything worked the first time!! Yay! However, I am noticing a weirdness. :/ In v3.96, the little pine tree icon in the taskbar notification area would only be displayed if there was new mail since you had last focused the Pine window (I *think* this was the previous behavior). So, after focusing the Pine window, the icon went away. This to me made sense - the icon was a signal that you had "unseen" mail (not just unread) waiting in your inbox. However, with v4.03, the pine tree icon seems to be *always* displayed, even if I don't have any new mail at all in my inbox. Has the meaning of the taskbar notification area icon changed? I hate to sound like a demanding, ungrateful user, but I liked the previous behavior better. :) Again, thanks, and keep up the excellent work! ---Jason Tiller jdtiller@best.com P.S. - Was there not also an experimental feature in v3.94+ called "enable-background-sending"? I'm very interested in that feature - I'm working through a firewall, and outbound SMTP connections seem bogged terribly. Background sending would save me a lot of time... ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 13:08:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA26514 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 13:08:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id NAA24452; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 13:08:18 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id NAA13830; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 13:06:07 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id NAA60560 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 13:04:13 -0700 Received: from xmission.xmission.com (root@xmission.xmission.com [198.60.22.2]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id NAA31934 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 13:04:12 -0700 Received: from wencor.com (root@wencor.com [207.135.128.153]) by xmission.xmission.com (8.8.8/8.7.5) with ESMTP id OAA07091 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 14:04:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from marvin.wencor.com (marvin.wencor.com [172.16.59.1]) by wencor.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/Debian/GNU) with SMTP id OAA16366 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 14:04:07 -0600 Received: from localhost by marvin.wencor.com (8.6.14/200.17.1.3) id OAA24549; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 14:01:43 -0600 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 14:01:43 -0600 (MDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Chris Wood To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: PC-Pine 4.03 - Imap Directory mapping MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I downloaded PC-Pine 4.03 and I'm trying to get it to look at the my folders on my unix server, via IMAP4 (Univ. Washington). I can get the inbox to come up right with {server.name.com}INBOX and that works. But, when I try to tell it that my default-fcc folder is {server.name.com}mail/sent-mail it works correctly in adding my sent messages to that folder, but I never see that folder show up in my Folder List. So, I decided to add it in the folder list and then path to that location, but that said it couldn't create it. Any tips? -=-=-=-=-=- Chris Wood Kitco, Inc. 801-489-2097 Wencor West, Inc. [cwood@wencor.com] Durham Aircraft Services -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 13:13:08 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA24186 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 13:13:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id NAA11440; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 13:13:02 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id NAA13985; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 13:12:18 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id NAA14974 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 13:11:03 -0700 Received: from uu7.psi.com (uu7.psi.com [38.8.39.2]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id NAA23730 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 13:11:01 -0700 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by uu7.psi.com (8.8.8/4.0.940727-PSI/PSINet) with UUCP id UAA11295 for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 20:11:00 GMT Received: from jrmusic by jandr.com (8.6.13/200.19.1.1) id QAA19897; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 16:10:38 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 16:10:36 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Joe DiBenedetto To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: stuck folder (pine 3.96) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Candy Cyr - Br 4e Clerical <04eclcac@all-phase.com> X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: joed@jrmusic X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Candy, Depending on the system you're running on, spaces in file names may be a problem. Try opening the folder with the name entered as "vac/leave\ time" - the backslash will allow the embedded space. Good luck. Joe:D On Thu, 3 Sep 1998, Candy Cyr - Br 4e Clerical wrote: > i received a message from someone else in my company and decided to > save > it. i saved it as vac/leave time. this name would not take, and it is now > called vac/. however, i can not open or delete this folder. when i try to > open it i get "select failed: mail/vac/ > (file/home/04e/04eclcac/mail/vac/)" what do i need to do to get rid of > this message? > > Thank You, Candy Cyr > Br 4E - Lafayette > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 13:23:42 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA29419 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 13:23:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id NAA24874; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 13:23:36 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id NAA00299; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 13:22:42 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id NAA14034 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 13:21:17 -0700 Received: from proxy3.ba.best.com (root@proxy3.ba.best.com [206.184.139.14]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id NAA01129 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 13:21:17 -0700 Received: from [150.202.161.238] ([205.185.16.139]) by proxy3.ba.best.com (8.9.0/8.9.0/best.out) with ESMTP id NAA11912 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 13:19:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 13:18:26 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Jason Tiller To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: PC-Pine 4.03 - Imap Directory mapping In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: jdtiller@shell3.ba.best.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi, Chris, :) On Thu, 3 Sep 1998, Chris Wood wrote: > But, when I try to tell it that my default-fcc folder is > {server.name.com}mail/sent-mail it works correctly in adding my sent > messages to that folder, but I never see that folder show up in my Folder > List. So, I decided to add it in the folder list and then path to that > location, but that said it couldn't create it. I believe you should set your folder to be: {server.name.com}~/mail/sent-mail Notice the "tilda;" I believe that's used to specify *your* login directory. I think that {server}INBOX is a special form of the above and only works with INBOX. Lots of "I believe" and "I think"'s in there... hopefully somebody will point out any errors. ---Jason jdtiller@best.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 01:23:59 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id BAA04994 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 01:23:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id BAA07481; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 01:23:54 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id BAA19063; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 01:23:31 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id BAA39932 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 01:20:48 -0700 Received: from lambik.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (root@lambik.cc.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.10.1]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id BAA22021 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 01:20:42 -0700 Received: from rr (rr.cc.kuleuven.ac.be [10.33.6.27]) by lambik.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (8.9.1a/8.9.0) with SMTP id KAA28064 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 10:20:41 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980904102014.007bfec0@mail.cc.kuleuven.ac.be> Date: Fri, 04 Sep 1998 10:20:14 +0200 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Rudy Rys To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: PC-Pine 4.03 - Imap Directory mapping In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: pop00513@mail.cc.kuleuven.ac.be X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN At 14:01 3/09/98 -0600, Chris Wood wrote: >I downloaded PC-Pine 4.03 and I'm trying to get it to look at the my >folders on my unix server, via IMAP4 (Univ. Washington). I can get the >inbox to come up right with {server.name.com}INBOX and that works. >But, when I try to tell it that my default-fcc folder is >{server.name.com}mail/sent-mail it works correctly in adding my sent >messages to that folder, but I never see that folder show up in my Folder >List. So, I decided to add it in the folder list and then path to that >location, but that said it couldn't create it. I had the same problem. To solve it the 'official way' in the PC client, you must add in 'setup/collection list' a folder that points to your mail folder on the server (so fill in server, path is mail for example and set view to *). Then you will see a new collection list on your folderlist with the nickname you chose. I hope this helps. Greetings, Rudy From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 01:48:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id BAA05638 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 01:48:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id BAA07885; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 01:48:18 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id BAA28237; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 01:47:48 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id BAA74660 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 01:46:03 -0700 Received: from hex.de.uu.net (hex.de.uu.net [192.76.144.27]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id BAA22990 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 01:46:01 -0700 Received: from gate1.ife-le.de (gate1.ife-le.de [194.115.104.202]:1095) by hex.de.uu.net with ESMTP (5.65+:004/3.0.2) for id KAA15920; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 10:43:11 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by gate1.ife-le.de with esmtp (Exim 1.90 #2) for pine-info@u.washington.edu id 0zErUv-0000n6-00; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 10:45:37 +0200 Received: with local-esmtp (Exim 1.90 #1) for pine-info@u.washington.edu id 0zErUu-0000yX-00; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 10:45:36 +0200 Message-Id: <0zErUv-0000n6-00@ife-le.de> Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 10:45:35 +0200 (MET DST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Rudolf Kompf To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: core dumped on attachment .gz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-559023410-1804928587-904898735=:3691" X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. ---559023410-1804928587-904898735=:3691 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I wanted to sent a bug report with a long pine-debug file. Therefore I packed it with gzip to pine-debug1.gz. After typing the filename as attachment pine crashes with core-dump. Now I send: The pine-debug file and the .mime.types of the crashed run as plain file in attachment. (The real bug report follows as another mail.) R. 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Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 03:08:53 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id DAA08243 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 03:08:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id DAA08863; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 03:08:47 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id DAA08461; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 03:08:29 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id DAA39822 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 03:06:40 -0700 Received: from tufa.hbrt.hu (tufa.hbrt.hu [195.228.53.17]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id DAA25750 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 03:06:35 -0700 Received: (from smap@localhost) by tufa.hbrt.hu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA28183 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 12:04:05 +0200 Received: from relay.hbrt.hu(172.16.128.76) by tufa.hbrt.hu via smap (V1.3) id sma028179; Fri Sep 4 12:04:04 1998 Received: from hehak.hbrt.hu (root@hehak.hbrt.hu [172.16.128.88]) by robi.hbrt.hu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA07850 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 12:04:43 +0200 Received: from pata.hbrt.hu (pata.hbrt.hu [172.16.128.74]) by hehak.hbrt.hu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA04106 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 12:09:24 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 12:06:18 +0200 (Central Europe Daylight Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Tibor Szep To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: PC-Pine 4.03: Alternate editor problem MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine-info mailing list X-X-Sender: szt@hehak.hbrt.hu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN [Sorry, if this is not the right forum for reporting this problem.] If I try to call the alternate editor (^_) in the message composing screen I get the the following error message (on a Windows NT WS 4.0 SP3) and the program hangs: Application Error The instruction at "0x004e8cd5" referenced memory at "0x00000000". The memory could not be "read". The earlier version (PC-Pine 3.96) worked correctly. After deleting content of the 'editor' entry in the configuration, the alternate editor works properly. WBR, Tibor Szep ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 10:09:37 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA07477 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 10:09:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id KAA16343; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 10:09:30 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id KAA04037; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 10:08:42 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id KAA29662 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 10:06:23 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id KAA24220 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 10:06:22 -0700 Received: from esssol013.elsegundoca.ncr.com (h141-206-15-15.NCR.COM [141.206.15.15]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id KAA02605 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 10:06:19 -0700 Received: from hostsw4.ElSegundoCA.NCR.COM (hostsw4 [141.206.2.38]) by esssol013.elsegundoca.ncr.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA17766 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 10:07:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (sf3@localhost) by hostsw4.ElSegundoCA.NCR.COM (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA27110 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 10:05:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 10:05:11 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: Steven Feinholz Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Steven Feinholz To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: pine 4.03 & mailtool MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Authentication-Warning: hostsw4.ElSegundoCA.NCR.COM: sf3 owned process doing -bs X-Sender: sf3@hostsw4 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN We have SunOS 4.1.4. Some people use Pine, some people use Sun's mailtool. Can anyone tell me why someone would have a problem when switching *from* Pine 4.03 *to* mailtool would lose all of their mail? Should I report this as a bug? ________________________________________________________________________ | Steven Feinholz | VOICEplus: 427-5945 NCR | Client Software | Phone: (310) 524-5945 Parallel | 100 N. Sepulveda Blvd. | FAX: (310) 524-5515 Systems | 15-169 | Email: sf3@ElSegundoCa.NCR.COM | El Segundo, Ca 90245 | Steven.Feinholz@ElSegundoCA.NCR.COM ________________________________________________________________________ ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 09:07:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Jenny Chang To: Steven Feinholz Subject: pine & mailtool Steven, I just switched to the newest version of pine, then I have problems to back to mailtool -- all the mails I captured from pine were lost in mailtool. I didn't have such problems with the old version. Before I used to use pine when logon from home, and use mailtool when working at office. Any advice? Thank you. -- Jenny Jenny Chang Test Engineering NCR 17095 Via del Campo San Diego, CA 92129 jc20@sparc.sandiegoca.ncr.com Tel: (619) 485-3279 Fax: (619) 485-3765 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 10:25:18 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA13280 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 10:25:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id KAA16765; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 10:25:12 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id KAA22975; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 10:24:44 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id KAA27874 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 10:22:54 -0700 Received: from ACAD.LVC.EDU (acad.lvc.edu [207.87.96.2]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id KAA26230 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 10:22:52 -0700 Received: from default.lvc.edu ([207.87.97.244]) by ACAD.LVC.EDU with SMTP; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 13:20:40 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980904125033.007c2910@mail.lvc.edu> Date: Fri, 04 Sep 1998 12:50:33 -0400 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Sheryl A. Lemma" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Pine Attach w/ WU-FTP Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-To: wu-ftpd@wugate.wustl.edu, pine-info@u.washington.edu, info-datatel@calvin.edu X-Sender: lemma@mail.lvc.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi all, Since many of you invested time into this problem (thank you!), I thought you'd all be interested in the solution. Just as a recap, we installed wu-ftp on our DEC unix box to shut down some security holes. We had to do this because our hands are tied by a third-party vendor whose software will cease to work with shadowed passwords. We configured the ftp software to restrict access to a users home directory. We found that it caused errors with attaching documents in Pine and tracked it down to the line in the pine.conf.fixed file that restricted users to a specific directory (operating-dir=~). The behavior that the tilde caused was for Pine to be unable to read the attachment from /usr/users/students/username/./ Ironically, pilot, the browser part of Pine, had no trouble with this arrangement. Our solution came from one of our professors (whose help is priceless!). What we ended up doing was setting an environment variable in our shell that did this: cd ~ setenv HOME2 $cwd Then, we modified the operating-dir= in the pine.conf.fixed to be $HOME2. This printed the home directory as /usr/users/students/username (stripped of the /./ listed in the passwd file, as required by the restricted ftp). Wa-la! Ftp access is restricted, attachments in Pine are restricted, and everyone is happy. Now, if we could only get students to log off properly (and in a timely manner) ... Thanks for all your help! Sheryl % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % Sheryl A. Lemma Internet: lemma@lvc.edu % % Assistant Director Voice: (717)867-6060 % % Administrative Computing FAX: (717)867-6019 % % % % L E B A N O N V A L L E Y C O L L E G E % % % % DEC Unix 3.2d/4.0D, Coll: Live 14v5, Dev 16, Ben: Live 4.3, Dev 5.0 % % % % Visit my Personal Web Page at % % http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Plains/4407/index.html % % % % Never underestimate the power of a smile! % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 10:30:31 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA15102 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 10:30:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id KAA03256; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 10:30:23 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id KAA23281; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 10:29:33 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id KAA12842 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 10:27:43 -0700 Received: from proxy3.ba.best.com (root@proxy3.ba.best.com [206.184.139.14]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id KAA29515 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 10:27:43 -0700 Received: from [150.202.161.238] ([205.185.16.139]) by proxy3.ba.best.com (8.9.0/8.9.0/best.out) with ESMTP id KAA00274 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 10:26:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 10:25:51 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Jason Tiller To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: PC-Pine 4.03: Taskbar Notification of New Mail? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: jdtiller@shell3.ba.best.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi, All, :) Thanks to Chris Szurgot for pointing out to me the new behavior of the pine notification icon. Naturally I noticed this behavior myself a few seconds after sending my request. ;/ Still, The new way seems logical, especially if you have *lots* and *lots* of icons in your taskbar or if you're running lots of apps simultaneously (not me, but hey, still cool). However, I haven't heard any feedback yet concerning my P.S.: On Thu, 3 Sep 1998, Jason Tiller wrote: > P.S. - Was there not also an experimental feature in v3.94+ called > "enable-background-sending"? I'm very interested in that feature - I'm > working through a firewall, and outbound SMTP connections seem bogged > terribly. Background sending would save me a lot of time... Any news on this, Pine Developers? :D ---Jason jdtiller@best.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 10:45:32 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA13674 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 10:45:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id KAA03710; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 10:45:26 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id KAA09824; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 10:44:54 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id KAA60754 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 10:43:07 -0700 Received: from shell8.ba.best.com (beldridg@shell8.ba.best.com [206.184.139.139]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id KAA19421 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 10:43:07 -0700 Received: from localhost (beldridg@localhost) by shell8.ba.best.com (8.9.0/8.9.0/best.sh) with SMTP id KAA01321 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 10:43:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 10:43:06 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Brett Eldridge To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Pine 4.03 URL quoting problem MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I noticed in the Release Notes for 4.03 the following: * URL Viewers variable: explicit URL quoting is no longer needed I built 4.03 (for Linux) and am now trying to regain the automatic URL launching capability I once had. :( Here is what I used to have for url-viewers: url-viewers=_TEST("test -n '${DISPLAY}'")_ "/usr/local/netscape/netscape -remote 'openURL(_URL_)'" Everything worked great. So, for 4.03, since explicit URL quoting isn't required, I tried a few different variations, with no success. So, how do we now pass Netscape the _URL_ value? Here is the syntax for -remote openURL: openURL ( ) Prompts for a URL with a dialog box. openURL (URL) Opens the specified document without prompting. openURL (URL, new-window) Create a new window displaying the the specified document. - brett ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 12:20:43 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA15968 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 12:20:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id MAA19719; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 12:20:37 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id MAA18910; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 12:20:02 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id MAA32188 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 12:18:00 -0700 Received: from orion.ac.hmc.edu (Orion.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.20]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id MAA07257 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 12:17:59 -0700 Received: from localhost (mcope@localhost) by orion.ac.hmc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA01991; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 12:17:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 12:17:57 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Michael Thomas Cope To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Pine 4.03 URL quoting problem In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Brett Eldridge X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Fri, 4 Sep 1998, Brett Eldridge wrote: > I noticed in the Release Notes for 4.03 the following: > > * URL Viewers variable: explicit URL quoting is no longer needed > > I built 4.03 (for Linux) and am now trying to regain the automatic URL > launching capability I once had. :( > > Here is what I used to have for url-viewers: > > url-viewers=_TEST("test -n '${DISPLAY}'")_ "/usr/local/netscape/netscape > -remote 'openURL(_URL_)'" > > Everything worked great. So, for 4.03, since explicit URL quoting isn't > required, I tried a few different variations, with no success. So, how do > we now pass Netscape the _URL_ value? Here is the syntax for -remote > openURL: > > openURL ( ) > Prompts for a URL with a dialog box. > openURL (URL) > Opens the specified document without prompting. > openURL (URL, new-window) > Create a new window displaying the the specified document. > > > - brett The following still works for me with 4.03 (Solaris 2.6 build gs5) url-viewers=_TEST("test -n'${DISPLAY}'")_"\ /usr/local/pkg/netscape-4.06/bin/netscape\ -remote 'openURL(_URL_,new-window)'", /usr/local/bin/lynx Which looks a lot like what you have. I have on the other hand had problems with changing the url-viewers config and having it work within the same Pine session. -Mike -- Michael Cope: Harvey Mudd College '00; Armand Hammer UWC '96 E-mail: Michael_Cope@hmc.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 12:45:51 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA15070 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 12:45:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id MAA20202; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 12:45:45 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id MAA14628; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 12:44:57 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id MAA25568 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 12:43:08 -0700 Received: from shell8.ba.best.com (beldridg@shell8.ba.best.com [206.184.139.139]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id MAA32135 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 12:43:07 -0700 Received: from localhost (beldridg@localhost) by shell8.ba.best.com (8.9.0/8.9.0/best.sh) with SMTP id MAA23380; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 12:43:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 12:43:05 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Brett Eldridge To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Pine 4.03 URL quoting problem In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Michael Thomas Cope X-Cc: Brett Eldridge , Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Fri, 4 Sep 1998, Michael Thomas Cope wrote: > The following still works for me with 4.03 (Solaris 2.6 build gs5) > url-viewers=_TEST("test -n'${DISPLAY}'")_"\ > /usr/local/pkg/netscape-4.06/bin/netscape\ > -remote 'openURL(_URL_,new-window)'", > /usr/local/bin/lynx > > Which looks a lot like what you have. I have on the other hand had > problems with changing the url-viewers config and having it work within > the same Pine session. Hmmm...I'm geting closer to understanding. When I go to launch the URL, pine presents me with the following message: View selected URL "http://www.news.com/Dispatch/Advertis..."? If I say yes, it actually sends the entire URL including the " " to Netscape. I get the error from Netscape (also v 4.06): Netscape is unable to locate the server: "http: The server does not have a DNS entry. In the URL window, sure enough, is the URL with quotes: "http://www.news.com/Dispatch/Advertising/amex.html?dd.cn.amex" - brett From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 13:46:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA14110 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 13:46:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id NAA21793; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 13:46:00 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id NAA01782; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 13:45:38 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id NAA25454 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 13:43:29 -0700 Received: from mg1.rockymtn.net (mailserv.rockymtn.net [166.93.205.11]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id NAA14745 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 13:43:29 -0700 Received: from rainbow.rmi.net (rainbow [166.93.8.14]) by mg1.rockymtn.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA14634 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 14:43:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from janeway.geekpad.org (nerdherd.evilpeople.net [166.93.72.131]) by rainbow.rmi.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA12797 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 14:41:36 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 14:41:54 -0600 (MDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Ian Hall-Beyer To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Building for Linux MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: manuka@janeway.geekpad.org X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Has anyone had to hack the source code in 4.03 to get it to compile under linux (like you had to with 4.00-.02)??? I have a patch for it if anyone needs it. -Ian ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 17:27:03 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA12919 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 17:27:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id RAA13654; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 17:26:54 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id RAA08418; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 17:26:26 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id RAA52542 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 17:24:32 -0700 Received: from gw-us1new.philips.com (gw-us1new.philips.com [205.167.14.36]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id RAA08858 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 17:24:31 -0700 Received: from smtprelay-us1.philips.com (localhost.philips.com [127.0.0.1]) by gw-us1new.philips.com with ESMTP id UAA21264 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 20:24:30 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from Jeff.Goswick@abq.sc.philips.com) Received: from smtprelay-nam1.philips.com(130.140.196.208) by gw-us1new.philips.com via mwrap (4.0a) id xma021262; Fri, 4 Sep 98 20:24:30 -0400 Received: from smtphub.sv.sc.philips.com (smtphub.sv.sc.philips.com [130.140.45.86]) by smtprelay-us1.philips.com (8.8.5/8.6.10-1.2.2m-970826) with ESMTP id UAA07063 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 20:24:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtphub.abq.sc.philips.com (smtphub.abq.sc.philips.com [130.140.3.9]) by smtphub.sv.sc.philips.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA02438 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 17:24:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from abqhp1.abq.sc.philips.com (abqhp1.abq.sc.philips.com [130.140.4.1]) by smtphub.abq.sc.philips.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA04167 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 18:24:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from abqhp39.abq.sc.philips.com (abqhp39.abq.sc.philips.com [130.140.4.39]) by abqhp1.abq.sc.philips.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA15309 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 20:24:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (goswick@localhost) by abqhp39.abq.sc.philips.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA08808 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 18:23:38 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 18:23:38 -0600 (MDT) Reply-To: Jeff Goswick Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Jeff Goswick To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Pine 4.03 URL quoting problem In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: Jeff.Goswick@abq.sc.philips.com X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: abqhp39.abq.sc.philips.com: goswick owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I'm getting the same behaviour. My setting for url-viewers (including ") is: "/usr/local/bin/netscape -noraise -remote 'openURL ( _URL_ , new-window)'" This worked fine in 4.01 (hpux 10, prebuilt binary), but in 4.03 netscape responds with 'No such host "http' (I added the single quotes). It looks like pine is quoting the already quoted URL from the HTML? Pine should only add quotes if the potential URL isn't already quoted, it seems. Sometimes unquoted references are being loaded as httpwww... some how the :// is getting stripped off. Other times they seem to work fine. Regards, Jeff On Fri, 4 Sep 1998, Brett Eldridge wrote: > Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 12:43:05 -0700 (PDT) > From: Brett Eldridge > To: Pine Discussion Forum > Subject: Re: Pine 4.03 URL quoting problem > > On Fri, 4 Sep 1998, Michael Thomas Cope wrote: > > > The following still works for me with 4.03 (Solaris 2.6 build gs5) > > url-viewers=_TEST("test -n'${DISPLAY}'")_"\ > > /usr/local/pkg/netscape-4.06/bin/netscape\ > > -remote 'openURL(_URL_,new-window)'", > > /usr/local/bin/lynx > > > > Which looks a lot like what you have. I have on the other hand had > > problems with changing the url-viewers config and having it work within > > the same Pine session. > > Hmmm...I'm geting closer to understanding. When I go to launch the URL, > pine presents me with the following message: > > View selected URL "http://www.news.com/Dispatch/Advertis..."? > > If I say yes, it actually sends the entire URL including the " " to > Netscape. I get the error from Netscape (also v 4.06): > > Netscape is unable to locate the server: > "http: > The server does not have a DNS entry. > > In the URL window, sure enough, is the URL with quotes: > > "http://www.news.com/Dispatch/Advertising/amex.html?dd.cn.amex" > > > > - brett > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 18:12:50 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id SAA21226 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 18:12:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id SAA28419; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 18:12:44 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id SAA21749; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 18:12:10 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id SAA66648 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 18:10:20 -0700 Received: from gw-us1new.philips.com (gw-us1new.philips.com [205.167.14.36]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id SAA14403 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 18:10:19 -0700 Received: from smtprelay-us1.philips.com (localhost.philips.com [127.0.0.1]) by gw-us1new.philips.com with ESMTP id VAA23149; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 21:10:18 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from Jeff.Goswick@abq.sc.philips.com) Received: from smtprelay-nam1.philips.com(130.140.196.208) by gw-us1new.philips.com via mwrap (4.0a) id xma023147; Fri, 4 Sep 98 21:10:18 -0400 Received: from smtphub.sv.sc.philips.com (smtphub.sv.sc.philips.com [130.140.45.86]) by smtprelay-us1.philips.com (8.8.5/8.6.10-1.2.2m-970826) with ESMTP id VAA08258; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 21:10:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtphub.abq.sc.philips.com (smtphub.abq.sc.philips.com [130.140.3.9]) by smtphub.sv.sc.philips.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA03667; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 18:10:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from abqhp1.abq.sc.philips.com (abqhp1.abq.sc.philips.com [130.140.4.1]) by smtphub.abq.sc.philips.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA04316; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 19:10:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from abqhp39.abq.sc.philips.com (abqhp39.abq.sc.philips.com [130.140.4.39]) by abqhp1.abq.sc.philips.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA15363; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 21:10:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (goswick@localhost) by abqhp39.abq.sc.philips.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA08857; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 19:09:26 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 19:09:26 -0600 (MDT) Reply-To: Jeff Goswick Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Jeff Goswick To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: How to send HTML so pine reads it inline. In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: Jeff.Goswick@abq.sc.philips.com X-To: Steve Ekwall X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: abqhp39.abq.sc.philips.com: goswick owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Yea Steve, while I won't rant & rave about it, I mostly agree. HTML ain't good email. But, this was more a question about how Pine works than about email etiquette. As far as sending a link, there isn't a WWW link to send. It is possible to read this file with an external browser, but then you need either an X-server, or lynx, neither of which are available. Anyway, I figure the tool is designed to read HTML, and send HTML, seems it should be able to read the HTML it sends. Anyone else know how to send HTML with Pine so that the MIME header for the attachment reads: "Content-Disposition:inline", or how to get Pine to read text/html attachments when the header reads "Content-Disposition: attachment"? Regards, Jeff On Thu, 3 Sep 1998, Steve Ekwall wrote: > Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 00:03:34 -0600 (MDT) > From: Steve Ekwall > To: Pine Discussion Forum > Subject: Re: How to send HTML so pine reads it inline. > > Hi Jeff, > > As it should be! (sigh/grin:) TWO DIFFERENT CRITTERS (like a > removable floppy vs a Hard Drive vs a CDROM = data yes, rwxALL=NO!). > THANKS > Oh, Please please dont' try to M_A_K_E pine be forced to read HTML. > HTML doesn't even BELONG in e-mail at all! It has its domain, it has its > FUNCTION, but that is like asking, I want to send e-mail with ALL of my -- SNIP -- > get through. If you're just trying to show him a *cool* url, point him to > it in ascii or add a few keystrokes in your > a href="this.is.coolest@abc.co#" <----- Thats all and FAST F_A_S_T! > :) > > Hope this helps, I know , N_O_T Quit your question, BUT, html doesn't > belong in e-mail. It belongs in URL's & home pages, & books on HTMLD. > > -=se=- > steve (plus it's really a bear to read for others:) ekwall > ekwall2@diac.com > > -----------snip-------------- > > On Wed, 2 Sep 1998, Jeff Goswick wrote: > > > I've been trying to send an email with an HTML attachment so that another > pine user can read it inline. I'd like to send it as an attachment, not in > the body of the message. > > Pine attaches and sends it fine, but when I CC: myself and read it in Pine, > the HTML file can only be read via an external viewer -> the pine viewer > won't show it. > > If I save the message to a folder, then change the attachment's MIME HEADER > from: > > Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="temp.html" > > to: > > Content-Disposition: inline; filename="temp.html" > > then pine shows the attachment inline, as I'd like. > > Is there anyway to configure pine to do this at send time? (ie. to attach > HTML files, or text files in general, as inline attachments so that pine > will display them in the normal message display)? > > How did the Pine developers expect pine users to send HTML so that it is > viewable by Pine, attachements or in the message body? > > Thanks, Jeff From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 14:39:42 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA00449 for ; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 14:39:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id OAA29137; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 14:39:37 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id OAA04538; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 14:39:00 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id OAA12856 for ; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 14:35:35 -0700 Received: from sdcc17.ucsd.edu (h1chang@sdcc17.ucsd.edu [132.239.50.17]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id OAA22101 for ; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 14:35:35 -0700 Received: from localhost (h1chang@localhost) by sdcc17.ucsd.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA06567 for ; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 14:35:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1998 14:35:34 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: h1chang@ucsd.edu Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Jennifer Chang To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Signature MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi, I'm new to this list, and I was wondering if anyone knew how I could add a "signature" on the bottom of every e-mail I send? Thanks! Jennifer ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 15:21:20 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA27889 for ; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 15:21:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id PAA14066; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 15:21:15 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id PAA05226; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 15:20:49 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id PAA13050 for ; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 15:18:43 -0700 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.a.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id PAA29184 for ; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 15:18:41 -0700 Received: from edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 06:18:35 +0800 Message-Id: <001b01bddaad$6fee0870$1511b381@edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com> Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 06:18:27 +0800 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Ed Greshko" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: RE: Signature In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN > Hi, I'm new to this list, and I was wondering if anyone knew how I could > add a "signature" on the bottom of every e-mail I send? Thanks! Go to the main menu. S(etup), S(ignature) Ed From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 19:25:16 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id TAA03854 for ; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 19:25:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id TAA16732; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 19:25:11 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id TAA19504; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 19:24:36 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id TAA13026 for ; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 19:22:08 -0700 Received: from hyperreal.org (taz.hyperreal.org [209.133.83.16]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id TAA04401 for ; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 19:22:07 -0700 Received: (qmail 24491 invoked by uid 12); 8 Sep 1998 02:22:07 -0000 Message-Id: <19980908022207.24490.qmail@hyperreal.org> Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1998 19:22:07 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: mike@hyperreal.org To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Pine 4.03 compilation problem: init_debug MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I am compiling Pine 4.03 under FreeBSD 2.2.6 and am getting the following error when I attempt to compile with -DDEBUG commented out in pine/makefile.bsf: cc -O2 -DBSDI -DSYSTYPE=\"BSF\" -DMOUSE -o pine addrbook.o adrbkcmd.o adrbklib.o args.o bldaddr.o context.o filter.o folder.o help.o helptext.o imap.o init.o mailcap.o mailcmd.o mailindx.o mailpart.o mailview.o newmail.o other.o pine.o reply.o screen.o send.o signals.o status.o strings.o takeaddr.o os.o date.c ../pico/libpico.a ../c-client/c-client.a -ltermlib `cat ../c-client/LDFLAGS` bldaddr.o: Undefined symbol `_init_debug' referenced from text segment *** Error code 1 Stop. This happens right at the very end of compilation and is the only error, but it prevents the pine executable from being compiled. The error does not occur if I compile with -DDEBUG, but who wants a 4 MB executable... Suggestions? - Mike ______________________________________________________________________ Mike Brown / Hyperreal | Director, Hyperreal Music Archive PO Box 61334 | http://www.hyperreal.org/music/ Denver CO 80206-8334 USA | ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 04:10:04 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id EAA11435 for ; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 04:09:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id EAA23067; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 04:09:54 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id EAA12195; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 04:09:25 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id EAA39858 for ; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 04:07:43 -0700 Received: from ns.i.cz (root@ns.i.cz [193.85.255.2]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id EAA25438 for ; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 04:07:41 -0700 Received: from petr-nb.internet.cz (petr-nb.internet.cz [193.85.158.50]) by ns.i.cz (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA08433 for ; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 13:07:38 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 13:09:17 +0200 (MET DST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Petr Novak To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: PINE w/IMAP over SSL/TLS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-X-Sender: petr@ns.i.cz X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi, I am looking for a secure IMAP solution using PINE. There are working solutions with middleware applications like edssl, but I was wodering wheather someone has been looking into the problem adding support for SSLeay and to be able to use PINE (especially PC PINE) over a secure IMAP channel with SSL or TLS. Any pointers would be welcomed. If there is enough interest and nobody knows about any similar development, we would be willing to take the task and to return the results back to the PINE community. Thank you in advance, -- Petr Novak ICZ a.s. Zirovnicka 6 CZ-106 00 Praha 10 Ph: +420 2 2424 5124 Fax: +420 2 2424 5125 ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 04:13:32 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id EAA11502 for ; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 04:13:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id EAA23134; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 04:13:25 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id EAA12288; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 04:13:02 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id EAA71082 for ; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 04:11:49 -0700 Received: from ns.i.cz (root@ns.i.cz [193.85.255.2]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id EAA30012 for ; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 04:11:47 -0700 Received: from petr-nb.internet.cz (petr-nb.internet.cz [193.85.158.50]) by ns.i.cz (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA08442 for ; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 13:11:44 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 13:13:23 +0200 (MET DST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Petr Novak To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Compiling PC Pine 4.03 with Visual C++ 5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-X-Sender: petr@ns.i.cz X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi, I was trying to compile PC Pine 4.03 myself using Visual C++ 5.0 (under Windows 95). The c-client library builds OK (after fiddling with the .BAT files making driver_link calls which are Windows NT specific), but there do not seem to be the files required for Win32 build of PINE a PICO. Is there any separate source distribution for this platform or are there any restrictions as to the availability of the 4.xx sources for the Win32 platform? I was able to build the 3.96 for Win32 without major problems. Thanks, -- Petr Novak ICZ a.s. Zirovnicka 6 CZ-106 00 Praha 10 Ph: +420 2 2424 5124 Fax: +420 2 2424 5125 ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 09:59:33 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA16267 for ; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 09:59:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id JAA15023; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 09:59:27 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id JAA07555; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 09:58:40 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id JAA85164 for ; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 09:55:10 -0700 Received: from xmission.xmission.com (xmission.xmission.com [198.60.22.2]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id JAA22577 for ; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 09:55:09 -0700 Received: from wencor.com (root@wencor.com [207.135.128.153]) by xmission.xmission.com (8.8.8/8.7.5) with ESMTP id KAA27230 for ; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 10:54:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from marvin.wencor.com (marvin.wencor.com [172.16.59.1]) by wencor.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/Debian/GNU) with SMTP id KAA00974 for ; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 10:53:57 -0600 Received: from localhost by marvin.wencor.com (8.6.14/200.17.1.3) id KAA13295; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 10:51:36 -0600 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 10:51:36 -0600 (MDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Chris Wood To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: PC-Pine 4.03, IMAP, and Global Addressbook MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I heard rumor that with PC-Pine 4.03 and UW Imap that you could have Imap serve the global addressbook. I dug around through the website and message archives but couldn't see anything. Was this a rumor or a dream I once had? -=-=-=-=-=- Chris Wood Kitco, Inc. 801-489-2097 Wencor West, Inc. [cwood@wencor.com] Durham Aircraft Services -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 16:38:44 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA25564 for ; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 16:38:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id QAA12699; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 16:38:38 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id QAA24862; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 16:38:00 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id QAA45948 for ; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 16:35:16 -0700 Received: from orion.ac.hmc.edu (Orion.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.20]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id QAA03704 for ; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 16:35:15 -0700 Received: from localhost (mcope@localhost) by orion.ac.hmc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA20736; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 16:31:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 16:31:58 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Michael Thomas Cope To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: PC-Pine 4.03, IMAP, and Global Addressbook In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Chris Wood X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Tue, 8 Sep 1998, Chris Wood wrote: > > I heard rumor that with PC-Pine 4.03 and UW Imap that you could have Imap > serve the global addressbook. I dug around through the website and > message archives but couldn't see anything. Was this a rumor or a dream I > once had? Maybe what you heard about was LDAP: for which you need a: an LDAP server with mail: fields b: umich LDAP source http://www.umich.edu/~dirsvcs or (haven't tried) patched and extended umich LDAP source http://www.openldap.org or (haven't tried) Netscape Directory server LDAP SDK c: some configuration in global pine.conf -Mike -- Michael Cope: Harvey Mudd College '00; Armand Hammer UWC '96 E-mail: Michael_Cope@hmc.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 17:31:21 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA27302 for ; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 17:31:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id RAA28570; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 17:31:16 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id RAA20035; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 17:30:08 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id RAA39250 for ; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 17:28:16 -0700 Received: from q7.q7.com (q7.q7.com [206.58.126.2]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id RAA20332 for ; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 17:28:14 -0700 Received: from localhost by q7.q7.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA23307 for ; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 17:28:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 17:28:09 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Joe Pruett To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: core dump and possible bug MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN pine 4.03, solaris 2.5.1, gcc 2.8.1. typing ^L to the folder prompt of the G command causes a core dump. from poking around with gdb, i can see the km_state.km is NULL, but i haven't figured the flow out yet to know more than that. stack trace below. also, the expunge-without-confirm isn't working for INBOX like it says it should. a quick glance at the logic in mailcmd.c (lines 5021-5025) i wonder why context_isambig is being called. should it be !context_isambig? here's the stack trace for the core dump: #0 0xef5f4974 in kill () #1 0xef5ba6ec in abort () #2 0x185878 in coredump () at os.c:875 #3 0x13fc10 in panic (message=0x282f50 "Received abort signal") at pine.c:2937 #4 0x167870 in auger_in_signal () at signals.c:220 #5 #6 0x14a390 in format_keymenu (km=0x0, bm=0x2f1384 "", width=80) at screen.c:504 #7 0x14b314 in draw_keymenu (km=0x0, bitmap=0x2f1384 "", width=80, row=0, column=0, what=SameMenu) at screen.c:757 #8 0x14b674 in redraw_keymenu () at screen.c:800 #9 0x18ce0c in optionally_enter (string=0x2f06d0 "", y_base=-1, x_base=0, field_len=1023, prompt=0xefffdbe8 "GOTO folder in : ", escape_list=0xefffdb58, help=0x0, flags=0xefffdb4c) at os.c:3897 #10 0xe454c in broach_folder (qline=-1, allow_list=1, context=0xefffe93c) at mailcmd.c:4235 #11 0xd69fc in process_cmd (state=0x2f9db8, stream=0x3028b8, msgmap=0x2fa6a0, command=707, in_index=1, force_mailchk=0xefffebe8) at mailcmd.c:405 #12 0xf2360 in index_lister (state=0x2f9db8, cntxt=0x3021b0, folder=0x2f9e3d "INBOX", stream=0x3028b8, msgmap=0x2fa6a0) at mailindx.c:981 #13 0xf0af8 in mail_index_screen (state=0x2f9db8) at mailindx.c:466 #14 0x13970c in main (argc=1, argv=0xeffff1ec) at pine.c:881 ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 17:43:56 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA27394 for ; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 17:43:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id RAA28784; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 17:43:51 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id RAA20725; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 17:43:27 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id RAA57910 for ; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 17:41:38 -0700 Received: from orion.ac.hmc.edu (Orion.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.20]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id RAA09732 for ; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 17:41:37 -0700 Received: from localhost (mcope@localhost) by orion.ac.hmc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA09740; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 17:41:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 17:41:33 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Michael Thomas Cope To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: core dump and possible bug In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Joe Pruett X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Tue, 8 Sep 1998, Joe Pruett wrote: > pine 4.03, solaris 2.5.1, gcc 2.8.1. > > typing ^L to the folder prompt of the G command causes a core dump. from > poking around with gdb, i can see the km_state.km is NULL, but i haven't > figured the flow out yet to know more than that. stack trace below. I couldn't replicate this in pine 4.03, solaris 2.6 (lastest patches), gcc 2.8.1 Can you be more specific. Does it happen in all menus where G can be pressed? -Mike -- Michael Cope: Harvey Mudd College '00; Armand Hammer UWC '96 E-mail: Michael_Cope@hmc.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 17:50:59 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA25402 for ; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 17:50:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id RAA14440; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 17:50:53 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id RAA21059; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 17:50:29 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id RAA18310 for ; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 17:48:47 -0700 Received: from q7.q7.com (joey@q7.q7.com [206.58.126.2]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id RAA11705 for ; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 17:48:46 -0700 Received: from localhost by q7.q7.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA23545; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 17:48:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 17:48:42 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Joe Pruett To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: core dump and possible bug In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Michael Thomas Cope X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN i didn't try a vanilla config. it only happens when disable-keymenu is turned on. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 18:00:30 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id SAA27628 for ; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 18:00:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id SAA29062; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 18:00:25 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id RAA29099; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 17:59:59 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id RAA68386 for ; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 17:58:14 -0700 Received: from orion.ac.hmc.edu (Orion.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.20]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id RAA10989 for ; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 17:58:13 -0700 Received: from localhost (mcope@localhost) by orion.ac.hmc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA12127; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 17:58:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 17:58:09 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Michael Thomas Cope To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: core dump and possible bug In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Joe Pruett X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Tue, 8 Sep 1998, Joe Pruett wrote: > i didn't try a vanilla config. it only happens when disable-keymenu is > turned on. > Ah...yes it exhibits the behavior you were describing G ^L abort on Pine 4.03, Solaris 2.6, gcc 2.8.1 -Mike ---- MAIN_MENU_SCREEN ---- Want_to read: < (60) Want_to read: RETURN (13) ---- MAIN_MENU_SCREEN ---- *** Debug level set to 9 *** q_status_message(Debug level set to 9) new mail called (0 2 3) output_message(Debug level set to 9) STATUS cmd:57, max:1, min0 cancel_busy_alarm(-1) Read char returning: 13 RETURN Read command returning: 13 RETURN New_mail_count zeroed === folder_screen called ==== new mail called (0 2 3) set_titlebar - style: 1 current message cnt:1 current_pl: 0 total_pl: 0 comatose(427) returns:"427" STATUS: diff:-1, displayed: 905302514, now: 905302515 d_q_status_message(Debug level set to 9) Clearing status line STATUS cmd:120, max:-1, min-1 cancel_busy_alarm(-1) Read char returning: 103 g Read command returning: 103 g New_mail_count zeroed === optionally_enter called === string:"" y:0 x:-1 length: 1024 append: 1 passwd:0 prompt:"GOTO folder in : " label:"" suspend_busy_alarm Read char returning: 12 ^L comatose(427) returns:"427" end_signals(1) auger_in_signal() end_screen called about to end_tty_driver end_signals(1) Pine Panic: Received abort signal From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 05:22:34 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id FAA25998 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 05:22:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id FAA08543; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 05:22:29 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id FAA12244; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 05:22:02 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id FAA25482 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 05:19:48 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id FAA13993 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 05:19:48 -0700 Received: from tapti.hss.hns.com (tapti.hss.hns.com [139.85.242.19]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id FAA24060 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 05:19:40 -0700 Received: from sharavati.hss.hns.com (sharavati.hss.hns.com [139.85.243.15]) by tapti.hss.hns.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA17185 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 18:31:14 +0530 (IST) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 18:31:08 +0530 (IST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Sanjay_Gogia To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Problem being faced while using PINE - Urgent MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi There, I am working for Hughes Software Systems Ltd. , INDIA I am facing the following problem in pine. While working on pine for 20-30 minutes I start getting error messages mentioned below. First message says - ------------------ [Unexpected changes to mailbox (try restarting): NE (MDS-CDR) After a few minutes of this the second message comes as below- ------------------------------------------------------------- [MAIL FOLDER "INBOX" CLOSED DUE TO ACCESS ERROR] UNIX SETUP (HP-UX and SUN SOLARIS) ----------- The mail directory is mounted from the MAIL server on to all other UNIX servers. From this directory pine is accessing the mails (INBOX) . I have already tried the following:- ---------------------------------- 1. I have tried reconfiguring PINE . 2. I have removed the .pinerc and created a new one. 3. Tried accessing pine from different servers. 4. The new configuration that I have saved is equivalent to that of a user who has no problem with pine. 5. I have tried creating a new INBOX None of the above has been able to sort the problem out. No other user is facing this problem (I have tried on servers from which they are accessing pine but to no avail) Please send me a solution for the above problems . I shall be awaiting for your response. Regards, Sanjay Gogia MIS =================================================================== ERROR DUMP IS SHOWN BELOW ========================== THIS MESSAGE CAME FIRST - UNEXPECTED CHANGES TO MAILBOX (EXACT ERROR DUMP PASTED BELOW) ------------------------------------------------------ + N 18 Sep 9 Anuj_Mathur (766) Meeting + N 19 Sep 9 Anuj_Mathur (770) ISO tree reg num for GDMO [Unexpected changes to mailbox (try restarting): NE (MDS-CDR). ======================================================================= AFTER A FEW MINUTES I GOT THE BELOW MENTIONED ERROR MESSAGE - [MAIL FOLDER "INBOX" CLOSED DUE TO ACCESS ERROR] + N 18 Sep 9 Anuj_Mathur (766) Meeting + N 19 Sep 9 Anuj_Mathur (770) ISO tree reg num for GDMO [MAIL FOLDER "INBOX" CLOSED DUE TO ACCESS ERROR] ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 05:39:29 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id FAA03378 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 05:39:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id FAA08771; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 05:39:24 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id FAA12689; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 05:37:58 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id FAA60912 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 05:36:35 -0700 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.a.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id FAA15207 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 05:36:33 -0700 Received: from edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 20:36:27 +0800 Message-Id: <000601bddbee$73997c60$1511b381@edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com> Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 20:36:22 +0800 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Ed Greshko" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: RE: Problem being faced while using PINE - Urgent In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: "Sanjay_Gogia" X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN It sounds like another process is accessing your mailbox. Do you run "xbiff" or any background process to check for newmail or report on the status of your mailbox? Do you have a POP or IMAP UA running on some other machine? Is there a zombie pine process running on one of the machines under your uid? BTW, you are running a really old version of pine! Pine is now at 4.03. An upgrade is strongly advised. Regards, Ed > -----Original Message----- > From: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu > [mailto:PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu]On Behalf Of Sanjay_Gogia > Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 1998 9:01 PM > To: Pine Discussion Forum > Subject: Problem being faced while using PINE - Urgent > > > > Hi There, > > I am working for Hughes Software Systems Ltd. , INDIA > > I am facing the following problem in pine. > While working on pine for 20-30 minutes I start getting > error messages mentioned below. > > > First message says - > ------------------ > > [Unexpected changes to mailbox (try restarting): NE (MDS-CDR) > > > After a few minutes of this the second message comes as below- > ------------------------------------------------------------- > > [MAIL FOLDER "INBOX" CLOSED DUE TO ACCESS ERROR] > > > > UNIX SETUP (HP-UX and SUN SOLARIS) > ----------- > > The mail directory is mounted from the MAIL server on to all > other UNIX servers. From this directory pine is accessing the > mails (INBOX) . > > > I have already tried the following:- > ---------------------------------- > 1. I have tried reconfiguring PINE . > 2. I have removed the .pinerc and created a new one. > 3. Tried accessing pine from different servers. > 4. The new configuration that I have saved is equivalent to > that of a user who has no problem with pine. > 5. I have tried creating a new INBOX > > > None of the above has been able to sort the problem out. > > No other user is facing this problem (I have tried on servers from > which they are accessing pine but to no avail) > > > Please send me a solution for the above problems . > I shall be awaiting for your response. > > Regards, > > Sanjay Gogia > MIS > > =================================================================== > > ERROR DUMP IS SHOWN BELOW > ========================== > > THIS MESSAGE CAME FIRST - UNEXPECTED CHANGES TO MAILBOX > (EXACT ERROR DUMP PASTED BELOW) > ------------------------------------------------------ > > + N 18 Sep 9 Anuj_Mathur (766) Meeting > > + N 19 Sep 9 Anuj_Mathur (770) ISO tree reg num for > GDMO > > [Unexpected changes to mailbox (try restarting): NE (MDS-CDR). > > ======================================================================= > AFTER A FEW MINUTES I GOT THE BELOW MENTIONED ERROR MESSAGE > - [MAIL FOLDER "INBOX" CLOSED DUE TO ACCESS ERROR] > > > + N 18 Sep 9 Anuj_Mathur (766) Meeting > > + N 19 Sep 9 Anuj_Mathur (770) ISO tree reg num for > GDMO > [MAIL FOLDER "INBOX" CLOSED DUE TO ACCESS ERROR] > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 06:50:38 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id GAA07139 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 06:50:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id GAA25194; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 06:50:33 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id GAA14253; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 06:49:56 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id GAA71128 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 06:48:24 -0700 Received: from tapti.hss.hns.com (tapti.hss.hns.com [139.85.242.19]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id GAA31493 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 06:48:11 -0700 Received: from sharavati.hss.hns.com (sharavati.hss.hns.com [139.85.243.15]) by tapti.hss.hns.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA01461; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 19:59:45 +0530 (IST) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 19:59:40 +0530 (IST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Sanjay_Gogia To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: RE: Problem being faced while using PINE - Urgent In-Reply-To: <000601bddbee$73997c60$1511b381@edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Ed Greshko X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi, Thanks for the prompt reply. I have checked up on all servers , but no other session is active. We are not running xbiff for checking up the newmail. From the info that I have been able to gather pine is keeping a tab on the inbox modification time and informing of new mails. The POP server is on the mail server itself , and I am not using POP for accessing mails. Additionally no zombie process is also not assigned to my UID. BTW the systems on which I access PINE have been rebooted. (The mail directory in the servers is /usr/mail which is NFS mounted from the mail server) Thanks for the advice for upgrading PINE. But till the time we are unable to implement it , I would request you if you could give me a solution to the problem that I am presently facing. Regards, Sanjay Gogia MIS On Wed, 9 Sep 1998, Ed Greshko wrote: > It sounds like another process is accessing your mailbox. > > Do you run "xbiff" or any background process to check for newmail or report > on the status of your mailbox? Do you have a POP or IMAP UA running on some > other machine? Is there a zombie pine process running on one of the > machines under your uid? > > BTW, you are running a really old version of pine! Pine is now at 4.03. An > upgrade is strongly advised. > > Regards, > Ed > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu > > [mailto:PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu]On Behalf Of Sanjay_Gogia > > Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 1998 9:01 PM > > To: Pine Discussion Forum > > Subject: Problem being faced while using PINE - Urgent > > > > > > > > Hi There, > > > > I am working for Hughes Software Systems Ltd. , INDIA > > > > I am facing the following problem in pine. > > While working on pine for 20-30 minutes I start getting > > error messages mentioned below. > > > > > > First message says - > > ------------------ > > > > [Unexpected changes to mailbox (try restarting): NE (MDS-CDR) > > > > > > After a few minutes of this the second message comes as below- > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > [MAIL FOLDER "INBOX" CLOSED DUE TO ACCESS ERROR] > > > > > > > > UNIX SETUP (HP-UX and SUN SOLARIS) > > ----------- > > > > The mail directory is mounted from the MAIL server on to all > > other UNIX servers. From this directory pine is accessing the > > mails (INBOX) . > > > > > > I have already tried the following:- > > ---------------------------------- > > 1. I have tried reconfiguring PINE . > > 2. I have removed the .pinerc and created a new one. > > 3. Tried accessing pine from different servers. > > 4. The new configuration that I have saved is equivalent to > > that of a user who has no problem with pine. > > 5. I have tried creating a new INBOX > > > > > > None of the above has been able to sort the problem out. > > > > No other user is facing this problem (I have tried on servers from > > which they are accessing pine but to no avail) > > > > > > Please send me a solution for the above problems . > > I shall be awaiting for your response. > > > > Regards, > > > > Sanjay Gogia > > MIS > > > > =================================================================== > > > > ERROR DUMP IS SHOWN BELOW > > ========================== > > > > THIS MESSAGE CAME FIRST - UNEXPECTED CHANGES TO MAILBOX > > (EXACT ERROR DUMP PASTED BELOW) > > ------------------------------------------------------ > > > > + N 18 Sep 9 Anuj_Mathur (766) Meeting > > > > + N 19 Sep 9 Anuj_Mathur (770) ISO tree reg num for > > GDMO > > > > [Unexpected changes to mailbox (try restarting): NE (MDS-CDR). > > > > ======================================================================= > > AFTER A FEW MINUTES I GOT THE BELOW MENTIONED ERROR MESSAGE > > - [MAIL FOLDER "INBOX" CLOSED DUE TO ACCESS ERROR] > > > > > > + N 18 Sep 9 Anuj_Mathur (766) Meeting > > > > + N 19 Sep 9 Anuj_Mathur (770) ISO tree reg num for > > GDMO > > [MAIL FOLDER "INBOX" CLOSED DUE TO ACCESS ERROR] > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: > > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 07:07:54 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA07558 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 07:07:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id HAA25474; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 07:07:48 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id HAA29152; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 07:06:13 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id HAA58494 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 07:04:56 -0700 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.a.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id HAA20300 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 07:04:55 -0700 Received: from edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 22:04:49 +0800 Message-Id: <000a01bddbfa$cc4e4370$1511b381@edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com> Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 22:04:45 +0800 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Ed Greshko" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: RE: Problem being faced while using PINE - Urgent In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: "Sanjay_Gogia" X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN > Thanks for the prompt reply. No good movies on in Taiwan tonight. My wife is working. And my cat is.....well a cat. > I have checked up on all servers , but no other session is active. > We are not running xbiff for checking up the newmail. From the > info that I have been able to gather pine is keeping a tab on > the inbox modification time and informing of new mails. > The POP server is on the mail server itself , and I am not using > POP for accessing mails. Additionally no zombie process is also > not assigned to my UID. BTW the systems on which I access PINE > have been rebooted. > (The mail directory in the servers is /usr/mail which is NFS > mounted from the mail server) > > Thanks for the advice for upgrading PINE. But till the time we are > unable to implement it , I would request you if you could give me > a solution to the problem that I am presently facing. I will *attempt* to help you. I don't have any pre-packaged solutions on my desk here at home. Do you get more emails than your co-workers? When did this start happening? How many others are using pine? I have a suspicion that you are the victim of "NFS locking" problems. i.e. There are known problems with applications needing/wanting to lock files which are NFS mounted. (I'd have to dig through my archives to give a more accurate discription.) Would it be possible for you to test this theory by running pine on the machine which actually holds the inbox? Or, if the machine holding the inbox is running an IMAP server can you access your mail via IMAP? Regards, Ed From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 07:32:28 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA08467 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 07:32:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id HAA25836; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 07:32:23 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id HAA15406; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 07:31:49 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id HAA71090 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 07:30:30 -0700 Received: from zodiac2.mimuw.edu.pl (root@zodiac2.mimuw.edu.pl [148.81.15.16]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id HAA24889 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 07:30:27 -0700 Received: from qrnik.knm.org.pl (root@ppp-cst229.warszawa.tpnet.pl [194.204.131.229]) by zodiac2.mimuw.edu.pl (8.8.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id QAA13364 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 16:24:25 +0200 Received: (from news@localhost) by qrnik.knm.org.pl (8.8.7/8.8.7) id QAA29643 for Pine Discussion Forum ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 16:28:20 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 16:28:16 +0200 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Bugs in Pine 4.03 - MIME-escaped Subjects and other things Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN When I'm replying to a news message with Subject MIME-encoded like this (for example): Subject: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Wr=F3ci=B3em!?= the Subject line initially looks OK (Subject: Wróci³em!). But then I press, ^X, Yes, "Posted message may go to thousands of readers. Really post?" - No! - and then Subject gets mangled, displaying in the above escaped form on the screen. * * * Another thing: It would be very nice to be able to view all headers (shown with `h') in MIME-unescaped form. Some people put extended characters there, e.g. in Organization field. Maybe there could be an option if one wants the header shown with h in raw format (as now) or unescaped. * * * One more thing: It would be nice to be able to specify that I want to view e.g. all header fields beginning with X- except X-Newsreader. Now it is only possible to specify literal names in viewer-hdrs. Maybe some sort of regexps? Or a more general way: allow passing the header fields through user-specified filter (not only the body, as it it now). But first the bug in filtering should be fixed, about which I've told some time ago: When filtering a long message through a display-filter, the text between each 4096th character and the nearest previous beginning of the line gets lost. This is because (at least on Linux's glibc) turning on non-blocking input on a pipe can't be reliably used together with buffered IO - and this is the case in Pine :-( I can see two solutions: either pull data from the filter with read(), or fork() once more and feed the filter and get its output in separate processes, without turning on non-blocking reads. Display-filters are quite important foo me and now I can't use them... -- __("< Marcin Kowalczyk * qrczak@knm.org.pl http://qrczak.home.ml.org/ \__/ GCS/M d- s+:-- a21 C+++>+++$ UL++>++++$ P+++ L++>++++$ E->++ ^^ W++ N+++ o? K? w(---) O? M- V? PS-- PE++ Y? PGP->+ t QRCZAK 5? X- R tv-- b+>++ DI D- G+ e>++++ h! r--%>++ y- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 12:29:56 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA10000 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 12:29:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id MAA04602; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 12:29:48 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id MAA11539; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 12:27:55 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id MAA75672 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 12:26:23 -0700 Received: from y.ml.org ([204.254.69.29]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id MAA25431 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 12:26:22 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by y.ml.org (8.9.1/Y/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA21367 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 12:26:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from j@y.ml.org) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 12:26:18 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "J. Heinrich" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Building 4.03 on Win32 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: j@y.ml.org X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Previous versions of the source distribution included several "makefile.wnt" files, as well as a "build.bat" for building (compiling) on MS Windows NT/9x and Visual C++. Can 4.03 still be built on Win32? --J ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 14:21:57 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA11080 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 14:21:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id OAA07881; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 14:21:48 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id OAA00996; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 14:20:58 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id OAA18222 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 14:19:31 -0700 Received: from smtpgate.uvm.edu (smtpgate.uvm.edu [132.198.101.121]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id OAA03239 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 14:19:31 -0700 Received: from [132.198.236.52] (132.198.236.52) by smtpgate.uvm.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1a) with SMTP id <0.007D8820@smtpgate.uvm.edu>; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 17:19:29 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 17:19:26 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Aaron S. Hawley" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: mailbox vulnerable MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Info X-X-Sender: ashawley@zoo.uvm.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN i get the mailbox vulnerable mesage even though i've set my mail directory to 1777 as instructed. what am i doing wrong? it occurs every time i access my INBOX i'm using pcpine 4.03 aaron ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 14:35:28 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA16383 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 14:35:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id OAA23110; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 14:35:15 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id OAA15591; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 14:34:11 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id OAA71804 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 14:32:48 -0700 Received: from rwjcam.umdnj.edu (root@rwjcam.UMDNJ.EDU [130.219.11.100]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id OAA07418 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 14:32:47 -0700 Received: from grindstone.UMDNJ.EDU (grindstone.UMDNJ.EDU [130.219.4.210]) by rwjcam.umdnj.edu (8.8.6 (PHNE_14041)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA18416 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 17:32:42 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 17:32:39 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Cliff Green To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: mailbox vulnerable In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: green@rwja.umdnj.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Wed, 9 Sep 1998, Aaron S. Hawley wrote: > i get the mailbox vulnerable mesage even though i've set my mail directory > to 1777 as instructed. what am i doing wrong? it occurs every time i > access my INBOX > > i'm using pcpine 4.03 And I'm getting it even though I've set quell-lock-failure-warnings. Also with PCPine 4.03. c -- Cliff Green green@umdnj.edu Academic Computing Service, UMDNJ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 18:37:33 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id SAA18380 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 18:37:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id SAA13808; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 18:37:27 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id SAA11791; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 18:36:45 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id SAA64822 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 18:34:18 -0700 Received: from smtpgate.uvm.edu (smtpgate.uvm.edu [132.198.101.121]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id SAA09453 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 18:34:17 -0700 Received: from [132.198.236.52] (132.198.236.52) by smtpgate.uvm.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1a) with SMTP id <0.98409DA0@smtpgate.uvm.edu>; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 21:34:16 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 21:34:13 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Aaron S. Hawley" To: Pine Discussion Forum MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Info X-Warning: UNAuthenticated Sender X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN i think the logon screen after starting the screen should be logged into, or else the program closes, so that users cannot view saved messages. aaron ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 18:42:31 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id SAA17666 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 18:42:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id SAA13870; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 18:42:25 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id SAA27630; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 18:41:57 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id SAA37052 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 18:40:41 -0700 Received: from orion.ac.hmc.edu (Orion.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.20]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id SAA31551 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 18:40:41 -0700 Received: from localhost (mcope@localhost) by orion.ac.hmc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA00492; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 18:40:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 18:40:32 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Michael Thomas Cope To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Aaron S. Hawley" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Wed, 9 Sep 1998, Aaron S. Hawley wrote: > i think the logon screen after starting the screen should be logged into, > or else the program closes, so that users cannot view saved messages. Can you be more specific? -- Michael Cope: Harvey Mudd College '00; Armand Hammer UWC '96 E-mail: Michael_Cope@hmc.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 05:18:58 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id FAA29740 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 05:18:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id FAA06667; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 05:18:53 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id FAA09682; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 05:18:27 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id FAA34424 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 05:16:13 -0700 Received: from tapti.hss.hns.com (tapti.hss.hns.com [139.85.242.19]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id FAA31384 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 05:16:04 -0700 Received: from sharavati.hss.hns.com (sharavati.hss.hns.com [139.85.243.15]) by tapti.hss.hns.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA25257; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 18:27:45 +0530 (IST) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 18:27:28 +0530 (IST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Sanjay_Gogia To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: RE: Problem being faced while using PINE - Urgent In-Reply-To: <000a01bddbfa$cc4e4370$1511b381@edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Ed Greshko X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi Edward, I have tried on the mail server also. But the problem is still the same. Pine crashes with the same messages I had reported. Additionally it doesn't appear to be related to NFS locks , as no stale NFS filehandle is existing - neither for this user nor for the nfs mounted mail directory. The number of mails recd. is just 7-8 per day , which is much less than what other users receive. Regards, Sanjay Gogia MIS On Wed, 9 Sep 1998, Ed Greshko wrote: > > > Thanks for the prompt reply. > > No good movies on in Taiwan tonight. My wife is working. And my cat > is.....well a cat. > > > I have checked up on all servers , but no other session is active. > > We are not running xbiff for checking up the newmail. From the > > info that I have been able to gather pine is keeping a tab on > > the inbox modification time and informing of new mails. > > The POP server is on the mail server itself , and I am not using > > POP for accessing mails. Additionally no zombie process is also > > not assigned to my UID. BTW the systems on which I access PINE > > have been rebooted. > > (The mail directory in the servers is /usr/mail which is NFS > > mounted from the mail server) > > > > Thanks for the advice for upgrading PINE. But till the time we are > > unable to implement it , I would request you if you could give me > > a solution to the problem that I am presently facing. > > I will *attempt* to help you. I don't have any pre-packaged solutions on my > desk here at home. > > Do you get more emails than your co-workers? When did this start happening? > How many others are using pine? > > I have a suspicion that you are the victim of "NFS locking" problems. i.e. > There are known problems with applications needing/wanting to lock files > which are NFS mounted. (I'd have to dig through my archives to give a more > accurate discription.) > > Would it be possible for you to test this theory by running pine on the > machine which actually holds the inbox? Or, if the machine holding the > inbox is running an IMAP server can you access your mail via IMAP? > > Regards, > Ed > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 10:56:32 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA31975 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 10:56:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id KAA15349; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 10:56:26 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id KAA22690; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 10:54:57 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id KAA29472 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 10:50:53 -0700 Received: from atlas.cmc.ec.gc.ca (atlas.cmc.ec.gc.ca [142.135.4.21]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id KAA31878 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 10:50:50 -0700 Received: from ec.gc.ca by atlas.cmc.ec.gc.ca (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA17362; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 17:50:42 GMT Message-Id: <35F81172.69B545E2@ec.gc.ca> Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 17:50:42 +0000 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Yannick Bilodeau To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Pine 4.03 and imap folders MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Sender: Yannick.Bilodeau@ec.gc.ca X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi everybody, I just installed Pine 4.03 and I cannot see my IMAP folders anymore. We are running the Cyrus IMAP Server 1.5.2 It is working fine with Pine 3.96, so I don't think it's what I wrote in "folder-collection" (and I didn't see any change about the format in the technical notes). did anybody had the same problem? and how did you solved it? Thanks a lot in advance. Yannick -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Yannick Bilodeau Environment Canada Supercomputing OS Programmer Canadian Meteorological Center Supercomputing division (CMISS) 2121 North Service Road e-mail: Yannick.Bilodeau@ec.gc.ca Trans-Canada Highway Tel: (514) 421-4709 Dorval, Quebec Fax: (514) 421-4703 Canada Office 318 H9P 1J3 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 14:15:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA19879 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 14:15:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id OAA07192; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 14:14:58 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id OAA29487; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 14:14:08 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id OAA39682 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 14:11:25 -0700 Received: from smtpgate.uvm.edu (smtpgate.uvm.edu [132.198.101.121]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id OAA32300 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 14:11:24 -0700 Received: from [132.198.236.52] (132.198.236.52) by smtpgate.uvm.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1a) with SMTP id <0.091E19E0@smtpgate.uvm.edu>; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 17:11:23 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 17:11:20 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Aaron S. Hawley" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Pine 4.03 and imap folders In-Reply-To: <35F81172.69B545E2@ec.gc.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Info X-X-Sender: ashawley@zoo.uvm.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN i've had the same problem too! i thought it was my fault too, but i'm glad i'm not the only one aaron On Thu, 10 Sep 1998, Yannick Bilodeau wrote: > Hi everybody, > > I just installed Pine 4.03 and I cannot see my IMAP folders > anymore. We are running the Cyrus IMAP Server 1.5.2 > It is working fine with Pine 3.96, so I don't think it's what I wrote > in "folder-collection" (and I didn't see any change about the format > in the technical notes). > > did anybody had the same problem? > and how did you solved it? > > Thanks a lot in advance. > Yannick > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Yannick Bilodeau Environment Canada > Supercomputing OS Programmer Canadian Meteorological Center > Supercomputing division (CMISS) 2121 North Service Road > e-mail: Yannick.Bilodeau@ec.gc.ca Trans-Canada Highway > Tel: (514) 421-4709 Dorval, Quebec > Fax: (514) 421-4703 Canada > Office 318 H9P 1J3 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 14:17:43 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA07723 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 14:17:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id OAA07267; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 14:17:35 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id OAA15615; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 14:16:42 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id OAA35040 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 14:13:48 -0700 Received: from smtpgate.uvm.edu (smtpgate.uvm.edu [132.198.101.121]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id OAA24307 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 14:13:47 -0700 Received: from [132.198.236.52] (132.198.236.52) by smtpgate.uvm.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1a) with SMTP id <0.5DB2EEE0@smtpgate.uvm.edu>; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 17:13:44 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 17:13:42 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Aaron S. Hawley" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Info X-X-Sender: ashawley@zoo.uvm.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN you're right sorry i meant the logon screen when starting pine should be correctly logged onto (i.e. given the correct username password combination) or else the program closes, so that no one else can view saved messages. clear enough aaron On Wed, 9 Sep 1998, Michael Thomas Cope wrote: > On Wed, 9 Sep 1998, Aaron S. Hawley wrote: > > > i think the logon screen after starting the screen should be logged into, > > or else the program closes, so that users cannot view saved messages. > Can you be more specific? > -- > Michael Cope: Harvey Mudd College '00; Armand Hammer UWC '96 > E-mail: Michael_Cope@hmc.edu > > > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 15:28:29 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA09223 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 15:28:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id PAA09292; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 15:28:23 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id PAA04836; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 15:23:55 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id PAA87526 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 15:21:24 -0700 Received: from orion.ac.hmc.edu (Orion.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.20]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id PAA30220 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 15:21:23 -0700 Received: from localhost (mcope@localhost) by orion.ac.hmc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA19372; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 15:21:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 15:21:20 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Michael Thomas Cope To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Login screen for Pine (was Re: your mail) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Aaron S. Hawley" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Thu, 10 Sep 1998, Aaron S. Hawley wrote: > you're right sorry > > i meant the logon screen when starting pine should be correctly logged > onto (i.e. given the correct username password combination) or else the > program closes, so that no one else can view saved messages. > > clear enough > aaron I assume you are talking about PC-Pine because in Unix there is no effective way to limit access to a user's mailbox from the user's shell (the user could always just read the file with a different mailer or cat) and a user should never leave a login session unlocked. The same is also true of PC files in a standard Win95 setup, any user can read any file. AFAIK the only reasonably secure way of keeping files secret in a Windows environment is to use NT or store the files on a separate computer (e.g. Netware). There may be a way to do this in Windows95 as well but certainly it would involve separate logins for each user using the system. Encrypting the mailbox between sessions would be a reasonable solution and it would perhaps be nice if Pine offered this as an option. It would also be nice if Pine offered support for compressed mailboxes. Heck there's a lot of things that would be nice to have in Pine, you have the source code...happy hacking. -- Michael Cope: Harvey Mudd College '00; Armand Hammer UWC '96 E-mail:Michael_Cope@hmc.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 15:44:07 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA07872 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 15:44:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id PAA09727; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 15:44:02 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id PAA19275; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 15:41:55 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id PAA25588 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 15:39:24 -0700 Received: from smtpgate.uvm.edu (smtpgate.uvm.edu [132.198.101.121]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id PAA10279 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 15:39:23 -0700 Received: from [132.198.236.52] (132.198.236.52) by smtpgate.uvm.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1a) with SMTP id <0.5404A350@smtpgate.uvm.edu>; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 18:39:22 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 18:39:19 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Aaron S. Hawley" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Login screen for Pine (was Re: your mail) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Michael Thomas Cope X-Cc: pine-info@u.washington.edu X-X-Sender: ashawley@zoo.uvm.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN right, i'ms sorry about forgetting to tell you that it was pc-pine. but i think it would make it quite as easy to get to peoples old mail. encryption would be a very cool option too. On Thu, 10 Sep 1998, Michael Thomas Cope wrote: > On Thu, 10 Sep 1998, Aaron S. Hawley wrote: > > > you're right sorry > > > > i meant the logon screen when starting pine should be correctly logged > > onto (i.e. given the correct username password combination) or else the > > program closes, so that no one else can view saved messages. > > > > clear enough > > aaron > I assume you are talking about PC-Pine because in Unix there is no > effective way to limit access to a user's mailbox from the user's shell > (the user could always just read the file with a different mailer or cat) > and a user should never leave a login session unlocked. > The same is also true of PC files in a standard Win95 setup, > any user can read any file. AFAIK the only reasonably secure way of > keeping files secret in a Windows environment is to use NT or store the > files on a separate computer (e.g. Netware). There may be a way to do > this in Windows95 as well but certainly it would involve separate logins > for each user using the system. Encrypting the mailbox between sessions > would be a reasonable solution and it would perhaps be nice if Pine > offered this as an option. It would also be nice if Pine offered support > for compressed mailboxes. Heck there's a lot of things that would be nice > to have in Pine, you have the source code...happy hacking. > > -- > Michael Cope: Harvey Mudd College '00; Armand Hammer UWC '96 > E-mail:Michael_Cope@hmc.edu > > > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 16:01:10 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA06739 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 16:01:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id QAA23836; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 16:01:02 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id PAA20345; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 15:59:55 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id PAA39700 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 15:56:54 -0700 Received: from hydra.precept.com (hydra.precept.com [204.162.119.8]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id PAA01592 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 15:56:54 -0700 Received: from oak.precept.com (oak.precept.com [204.162.116.21]) by hydra.precept.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id PAA28052; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 15:56:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 15:57:33 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) Reply-To: Stephen Casner Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Stephen Casner To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: PC-Pine 4.03: Alternate editor problem In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Tibor Szep X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: casner@big-bear.precept.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Fri, 4 Sep 1998, Tibor Szep wrote: > If I try to call the alternate editor (^_) in the message composing > screen I get the the following error message (on a Windows NT WS 4.0 > SP3) and the program hangs: > > Application Error > The instruction at "0x004e8cd5" referenced memory at "0x00000000". The > memory could not be "read". I'm getting the same failure. It occurs both on NT and on '95 (though the format of the error message is different). Suspecting that perhaps there was something bad in the pinerc or other files that I was bringing in from 3.96, I tried installing 4.03 into a fresh directory and running it as if pine had not run on that machine before. It still crashes if I try to invoke an alternate editor. It does not seem to matter what the alternate editor is (I want it to be emacs as I have previously used with 3.96, but I also tried "notepad" and pine still crashes the same way). Meanwhile, my neighbor is using 4.03 to invoke epsilon as the alternate editor, and it works fine. I have not figured out what's different between his configuration and mine. Any clues would be much appreciated. -- Steve From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 05:04:08 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id FAA15043 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 05:04:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id FAA04871; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 05:04:02 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id FAA21996; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 05:03:27 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id FAA62912 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 05:00:03 -0700 Received: from bits-pilani.ac.in ([202.54.26.114]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id EAA18269 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 04:59:58 -0700 Received: from ipc.bits-pilani.ac.in ([164.164.43.211]) by bits-pilani.ac.in (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA01965 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 17:29:01 +0530 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 17:29:31 +0530 (IST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: SANJAY AGRAWAL To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Blocking e-mail from a particular address MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi! I am having a problem with my e-mail account here.One particular person is sending me e-mails again and again.How can I block mails from this particular address.Moreover can I automatically bounce it back to the sender. Please help. Thanks Sanjay ******************************************************************************* Sanjay Agrawal 247 Malviya Bhawan B.I.T.S. PILANI 333 031 INDIA fd94400@bits-pilani.ac.in agrawals@altavista.net ******************************************************************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 05:36:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id FAA21876 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 05:36:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id FAA21580; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 05:36:35 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id FAA01254; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 05:35:36 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id FAA29478 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 05:33:42 -0700 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.a.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id FAA19673 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 05:33:40 -0700 Received: from edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 20:33:32 +0800 Message-Id: <000901bddd80$5e06fab0$1511b381@edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com> Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 20:33:23 +0800 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Ed Greshko" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: RE: Blocking e-mail from a particular address In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: "SANJAY AGRAWAL" X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN > I am having a problem with my e-mail account here.One particular person is > sending me e-mails again and again.How can I block mails from this > particular address.Moreover can I automatically bounce it back to the > sender. Please help. Don't automatically bounce mail back to the sender. Just because the sender is obnoxious there is no reason you should follow. The best thing is to get procmail (maybe your site already has it..) and filter your incoming mail. For that mail you dislike you can save in /dev/null. Oh, as for the location of procmail......you can do a Web search as the source location as escaped me at the moment. Regards, Ed From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 05:40:19 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id FAA09303 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 05:40:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id FAA21638; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 05:40:11 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id FAA01513; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 05:39:24 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id FAA78248 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 05:37:43 -0700 Received: from bits-pilani.ac.in (root@[202.54.26.114]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id FAA19875 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 05:37:39 -0700 Received: from ipc.bits-pilani.ac.in ([164.164.43.211]) by bits-pilani.ac.in (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA02175; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 18:06:20 +0530 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 18:06:52 +0530 (IST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: SANJAY AGRAWAL To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: RE: Blocking e-mail from a particular address In-Reply-To: <000901bddd80$5e06fab0$1511b381@edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Ed Greshko X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Dear Ed, Can I do it without procmail?This is because I am a student in an undergraduate college and I do not have the superuser permissions to download and install procmail.(It is not here). Thanks for your reply. Sanjay On Fri, 11 Sep 1998, Ed Greshko wrote: > > > I am having a problem with my e-mail account here.One particular person is > > sending me e-mails again and again.How can I block mails from this > > particular address.Moreover can I automatically bounce it back to the > > sender. Please help. > > Don't automatically bounce mail back to the sender. Just because the sender > is obnoxious there is no reason you should follow. > > The best thing is to get procmail (maybe your site already has it..) and > filter your incoming mail. For that mail you dislike you can save in > /dev/null. > > Oh, as for the location of procmail......you can do a Web search as the > source location as escaped me at the moment. > > Regards, > Ed > > ******************************************************************************* Sanjay Agrawal 247 Malviya Bhawan B.I.T.S. PILANI 333 031 INDIA fd94400@bits-pilani.ac.in agrawals@altavista.net ******************************************************************************* From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 05:46:38 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id FAA22141 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 05:46:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id FAA05355; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 05:46:32 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id FAA07645; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 05:46:01 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id FAA67844 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 05:44:22 -0700 Received: from gade.imada.ou.dk (root@gade.imada.ou.dk [130.225.128.158]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id FAA17191 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 05:44:21 -0700 Received: from turandot.imada.ou.dk (larsen@turandot.imada.ou.dk [130.225.128.43]) by gade.imada.ou.dk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA29928; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 14:44:13 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 14:44:07 +0200 (MEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?S=F8ren_Larsen?= To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: RE: Blocking e-mail from a particular address In-Reply-To: <000901bddd80$5e06fab0$1511b381@edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-To: Ed Greshko X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Fri, 11 Sep 1998, Ed Greshko wrote: > Oh, as for the location of procmail......you can do a Web search as the > source location as escaped me at the moment. This link contains useful information about procmail, including a link to the FTP site: http://www.ii.com/internet/robots/procmail/ S=F8ren --=20 S=F8ren Larsen Email: larsen@imada.ou.dk Dept. of Math. & Comp. Sci. URL: http://www.imada.ou.dk/~larsen/ Odense University, Campusvej 55 phone: +45 6557 2312 DK-5230 Odense M, Denmark fax: +45 6593 2691 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 06:41:43 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id GAA17521 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 06:41:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id GAA22469; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 06:41:37 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id GAA09706; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 06:41:01 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id GAA37062 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 06:39:03 -0700 Received: from infra.de (root@INFRa.DE [194.121.21.1]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id GAA20591 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 06:39:01 -0700 Received: from gelitten.anne.titten (hat.gelitten.bei.INFRa.DE [194.121.21.146]) by infra.de (8.8.8/8.8.8/nospam) with ESMTP id PAA09356; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 15:38:49 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from localhost (realcosmo@localhost) by gelitten.anne.titten (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA00311; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 15:23:20 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 15:23:20 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Realcosmo To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Blocking e-mail from a particular address In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: realcosmo@gelitten.anne.titten X-To: SANJAY AGRAWAL X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Wings: X X-F-1: Fuck of it... X-Gelitten: I'm gelitten...sure... X-OS: DOS 7.0 with Linux Batch-File X-Trem: -Nachmaching X-School: You don't want to know this X-Server: Win 98 with Linux Batch-File X-Mozilla: Get the new Soundtrack ! X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Fri, 11 Sep 1998, SANJAY AGRAWAL wrote: > I am having a problem with my e-mail account here.One particular person is > sending me e-mails again and again.How can I block mails from this > particular address.Moreover can I automatically bounce it back to the > sender. Please help. If you have installed procmail, make a file called '.procmailrc'. ===============.procmailrc============== :0 * ^From.the@email.address.com /dev/null or even :0 * ^From.the@email.address.com ! the@email.address.com ===============.procmailrc============== The first entry will move the mail to /dev/null, the second one will send it back to the emailaddress that is given. But read the 'procmailrc' man-page for more details... Cya, Daniele ,.-'`-.,.-'`-.,.-'`-..-'`-.,,.-'`-.,.-'`-.,.-'`-.,.-'`-.,.-'`-.,.-'`-.,,.-'`-., Daniele Frijia Email: Realcosmo@infra.de Homepage: http://rc.home.pages.de Realcosmo@IRCnet ICQ: 16863225 ,.-'`-.,.-'`-.,.-'`-..-'`-.,,.-'`-.,.-'`-.,.-'`-.,.-'`-.,.-'`-.,.-'`-.,,.-'`-., From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 07:19:43 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA19419 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 07:19:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id HAA23795; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 07:19:37 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id HAA26257; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 07:19:00 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id HAA72030 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 07:16:19 -0700 Received: from kens.com (kens.com [209.70.169.2]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id HAA02026 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 07:16:19 -0700 Received: from kens.com (kens.com [209.70.169.2]) by kens.com (8.8.8/8.9.0) with SMTP id KAA03462; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 10:15:56 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 10:15:56 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Ken Woods To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: RE: Blocking e-mail from a particular address In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: SANJAY AGRAWAL X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN eh..... You don't need root to install procmail dl, compile, and put it in your own bin directory. :0: * ^From:.*asshole@where.ever.dom !asshole@where.ever.dom On Fri, 11 Sep 1998, SANJAY AGRAWAL wrote: > Dear Ed, > Can I do it without procmail?This is because I am a student in an > undergraduate college and I do not have the superuser permissions to > download and install procmail.(It is not here). > Thanks for your reply. > Sanjay > > On Fri, 11 Sep 1998, Ed Greshko wrote: > > > > > > I am having a problem with my e-mail account here.One particular person is > > > sending me e-mails again and again.How can I block mails from this > > > particular address.Moreover can I automatically bounce it back to the > > > sender. Please help. > > > > Don't automatically bounce mail back to the sender. Just because the sender > > is obnoxious there is no reason you should follow. > > > > The best thing is to get procmail (maybe your site already has it..) and > > filter your incoming mail. For that mail you dislike you can save in > > /dev/null. > > > > Oh, as for the location of procmail......you can do a Web search as the > > source location as escaped me at the moment. > > > > Regards, > > Ed > > > > > > ******************************************************************************* > > Sanjay Agrawal 247 Malviya Bhawan B.I.T.S. PILANI 333 031 INDIA > > fd94400@bits-pilani.ac.in agrawals@altavista.net > > ******************************************************************************* > -- Ken Woods kwoodskens.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 08:14:00 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA22118 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 08:13:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id IAA25225; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 08:13:54 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id IAA25514; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 08:12:56 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id IAA46630 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 08:10:53 -0700 Received: from newton.winokur.com (newton.winokur.com [208.209.211.66]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id IAA00118 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 08:10:53 -0700 Received: from newton.winokur.com (208.209.211.66) by newton.winokur.com (Worldmail 1.3.167) for pine-info@u.washington.edu; 11 Sep 1998 08:11:23 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 08:11:22 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Danny Winokur To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: PC Pine 4.03 - Incorrect MIME type when forwarding message with attachment MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-X-Sender: danny@imap.winokur.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Upon upgrading to PC Pine 4.03 from PC Pine 3.96, I've discovered that when forwarding a message that already had a correctly MIME encoded attachment, the forwarded message is sent as a single MIME part of type Text/Plain. This causes receiving mail readers (including Pine!) to not recognize the attachment that was part of the original forwarded message. Instead, any new text, and the forwarded message, including its attachment(s), are all displayed as plain text, with much of the message consisting of the MIME encoded text inline. This does not happen if I attach a file directly from my local system, instead of forwarding an attachment that is already part of an existing message. PC Pine 3.96 did not have this problem. Is there a configuration parameter I'm misssing? Is this a known bug? Is it intentional for some reason? Any help is appreciated, as forwarding messages with attachments occurs quite frequently, and I'm this change in behavior is a significant inconvenience. Thanks. Regards, Danny ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 08:36:19 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA19241 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 08:36:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id IAA09532; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 08:36:11 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id IAA07611; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 08:35:21 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id IAA71772 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 08:33:28 -0700 Received: from q7.q7.com (joey@q7.q7.com [206.58.126.2]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id IAA31671 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 08:33:27 -0700 Received: from localhost by q7.q7.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA13174 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 08:33:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 08:33:26 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Joe Pruett To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: odd behaviour from pipe (|) command MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN pine 4.03, solaris 2.5.1, gcc 2.8.1 i just used the pipe command to uudecode something (which it did do correctly), but then pine dropped me into an empty help message screen. that's a little odd, anyone else seen this? i'm going to go dive into the sources now... ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 08:38:11 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA19842 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 08:38:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id IAA26042; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 08:38:03 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id IAA26539; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 08:37:14 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id IAA85190 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 08:35:33 -0700 Received: from q7.q7.com (joey@q7.q7.com [206.58.126.2]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id IAA09424 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 08:35:31 -0700 Received: from localhost by q7.q7.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA13202 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 08:35:29 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 08:35:29 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Joe Pruett To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: nevermind, it's too early MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN that wasn't a help screen, but an output screen. and since uudecode doesn't produce any output, it was blank. maybe no output should mean not to drop into a viewing window? ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 08:40:08 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA24494 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 08:40:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id IAA09675; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 08:40:03 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id IAA13506; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 08:38:58 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id IAA39772 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 08:36:35 -0700 Received: from mail1.new-york.net (SYSTEM@mail1.new-york.net [165.254.2.54]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id IAA02792 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 08:36:34 -0700 Received: from aleph.ii.com ("port 1774"@aleph.ii.com) by mail1.new-york.net (PMDF V5.1-10 #22885) with ESMTP id <01J1OG7KJUY4000SMW@mail1.new-york.net> for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 11:36:20 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 11:36:16 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Nancy this-address-is-valid McGough To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: vote for pine MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: NULL@news2.new-york.net X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN The Mining Co. is collecting votes for the best email client at http://email.miningco.com/library/cc/blvote.htm and Pine only has 0.3% of the votes so far. If you want to help spread the word about the great and powerful Pine 4.03, how about casting your vote? You can see the Pine comments that people have submitted with their votes at: http://email.miningco.com/library/cc/bluserpine.htm Nancy -- Nancy McGough Infinite Ink http://www.ii.com ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 09:27:11 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA26272 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 09:27:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id JAA11535; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 09:27:04 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id JAA15544; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 09:24:12 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id JAA71890 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 09:22:03 -0700 Received: from ady.warpnet.ro (ady.warpnet.ro [193.230.201.1]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id JAA08100 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 09:21:05 -0700 Received: from localhost (ady@localhost) by ady.warpnet.ro (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA08974 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 19:21:53 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ady@warpnet.ro) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 19:21:53 +0300 (EEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Adrian Penisoara To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: [FreeBSD port of Pine 4.03] New mail check bug ? / testers needed (fwd) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-285909128-905530452=:8809" Content-ID: X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: ady@ady.warpnet.ro X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --0-285909128-905530452=:8809 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: Hi, I'm trying to finish the FreeBSD port for Pine 4.03 but I'm stuck into what it appears to be a bug in Pine when checking for new mail: After I'm starting Pine (user root) I compose a message to myself and then I hit "I" and down arrow to check for new mail; in that moment Pine exits with: - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Problem detected: "Received abort signal". Pine Exiting. Abort trap (core dumped) - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Environment: FreeBSD 2.2.7-RELEASE , Pine 4.03 built from the FreeBSD port. Please note that I tried to switch to 1777 mode for /var/mail and still no luck; I thought it could be a user limits problem, but this is unlikely with the root user... I've attached the current port archive, one gdb output and two pine-debug files (one with level 6 and the other with level 9 -- please note that with debug level bigger than 6 Pine will simply segfault and won't exit with the "Received abort signal" message). Any hints on what's going on are welcomed! 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lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id MAA08412; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 12:20:44 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id MAA71828 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 12:16:35 -0700 Received: from skipper.robotics.net ([24.3.62.76]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id MAA04117 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 12:16:30 -0700 Received: from localhost (nathan@localhost) by skipper.robotics.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA17728; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 15:04:58 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from nathan@robotics.net) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 15:04:58 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Nathan Stratton To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: [FreeBSD port of Pine 4.03] New mail check bug ? / testers needed (fwd) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Adrian Penisoara X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Fri, 11 Sep 1998, Adrian Penisoara wrote: > Hi, > > I'm trying to finish the FreeBSD port for Pine 4.03 but I'm stuck into > what it appears to be a bug in Pine when checking for new mail: > After I'm starting Pine (user root) I compose a message to myself > and then I hit "I" and down arrow to check for new mail; in that moment Why is a FreeBSD port needed? I run FreeBSD and I just used generic unix and it compiled fine. ><> Nathan Stratton Telecom & ISP Consulting www.robotics.net nathan@robotics.net -- "No king is saved by the size of his army; no warrior escapes by his great strength." - Psalm 33:16 > Any hints on what's going on are welcomed! > Thanks, > Adrian Penisoara > Ady (@freebsd.ady.ro) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 18:35:40 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id SAA03810 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 18:35:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id SAA12511; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 18:35:33 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id SAA21888; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 18:32:46 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id SAA74206 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 18:30:30 -0700 Received: from calypso.view.net.au (mtw@calypso.view.net.au [203.30.237.210]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id SAA07626 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 18:30:27 -0700 Received: from localhost (mtw@localhost) by calypso.view.net.au (8.9.0/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA32562; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 10:23:55 +0930 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 10:23:54 +0930 (CST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Michael Talbot-Wilson To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: vote for pine In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Nancy this-address-is-valid McGough X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Fri, 11 Sep 1998, Nancy this-address-is-valid McGough wrote: > The Mining Co. is collecting votes for the best email client at > > http://email.miningco.com/library/cc/blvote.htm > > http://email.miningco.com/library/cc/bluserpine.htm > Nancy Dear this-address-is-valid, I don't know if you have actually used Pine, but Pine is not Netscape Communicator, and Pine is not Pegasus Mail for Microsoft Windows 98. I can't tab to the above URLs in Pine and connect to those sites. What you need to do is set up a return e-mail address which performs the vote, using a custom delivery agent or majordomo. Any "vote" called for by e-mail which must be cast in a Web browser is ipso facto discredited. Anyway, what are you trying to achieve? Why should I care what the Mining Co., whatever that is, is doing? As I assume you are collecting e-mail addresses for a spam, you will need to read the list to see this. --Mike From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 20:54:23 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id UAA05242 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 20:54:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id UAA27813; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 20:54:17 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id UAA24929; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 20:53:43 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id UAA46616 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 20:51:39 -0700 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.a.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id UAA06191 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 20:51:37 -0700 Received: from edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 11:51:31 +0800 Message-Id: <002201bdde00$9ac6fba0$1511b381@edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com> Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 11:51:21 +0800 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Ed Greshko" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: RE: vote for pine In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: "Michael Talbot-Wilson" X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN > -----Original Message----- > From: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu > [mailto:PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu]On Behalf Of Michael > Talbot-Wilson > Sent: Saturday, September 12, 1998 8:54 AM > To: Pine Discussion Forum > Subject: Re: vote for pine > I don't know if you have actually used Pine, but Pine is not > Netscape Communicator, and Pine is not Pegasus Mail for Microsoft Windows > 98. I can't tab to the above URLs in Pine and connect to those sites. You can't? Maybe it is because you are using pine3.96? In pine 4.03 it works fine for me on both a Solaris platform as well as the just released Win32 version. > What you need to do is set up a return e-mail address which performs the > vote, using a custom delivery agent or majordomo. > > Any "vote" called for by e-mail which must be cast in a Web browser is > ipso facto discredited. > > Anyway, what are you trying to achieve? Why should I care what the Mining > Co., whatever that is, is doing? > > As I assume you are collecting e-mail addresses for a spam, you will > need to read the list to see this. Actually, if you go to the Main Menu of pine and then go to the Release Notes and pop down to the "Credits" section you will notice Nancy's name. So, she is trying to achieve recognition for pine. But, I do agree with you. What do I care about Mining Co.? What good is some survey where only a limited number of people...and certainly not a cross section...will particpate? And, what good is a survey where you can tell everyone on a list to go vote for pine? And, how valid are any of these things on a site which tell you about "Proto" from CommTouch when CommTouch has ceased all development on this SW and has moved to being a Web hosting company. Nancy's motives are not related to spamming.....but I do question why anyone would want to announce such a unscientific and meaningless survey. Regards, Ed From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 21:22:38 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id VAA04624 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 21:22:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id VAA14368; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 21:22:31 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id VAA23852; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 21:21:44 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id VAA68062 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 21:19:56 -0700 Received: from calypso.view.net.au (calypso.view.net.au [203.30.237.210]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id VAA06025 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 21:19:49 -0700 Received: from localhost (mtw@localhost) by calypso.view.net.au (8.9.0/8.9.1) with SMTP id NAA00474; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 13:13:13 +0930 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 13:13:13 +0930 (CST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Michael Talbot-Wilson To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: RE: vote for pine In-Reply-To: <002201bdde00$9ac6fba0$1511b381@edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Ed Greshko X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Sat, 12 Sep 1998, Ed Greshko wrote: > > I don't know if you have actually used Pine, but Pine is not > > Netscape Communicator, and Pine is not Pegasus Mail for Microsoft Windows > > 98. I can't tab to the above URLs in Pine and connect to those sites. > > You can't? Maybe it is because you are using pine3.96? In pine 4.03 it > works fine for me on both a Solaris platform as well as the just released > Win32 version. Oops. Dumb of me. It seems only a couple of weeks since I downloaded and installed the latest version, so I thought I was right up to date. (It was 4.02A.) Now I realise that I'm using it on a new machine with a new Linux installation (Slackware 3.5), and yes, you are right, I have reverted to 3.96. > >... > > Anyway, what are you trying to achieve? Why should I care what the Mining > > Co., whatever that is, is doing? > > > > As I assume you are collecting e-mail addresses for a spam, you will > > need to read the list to see this. > > Actually, if you go to the Main Menu of pine and then go to the Release > Notes and pop down to the "Credits" section you will notice Nancy's name. Okay. Nancy, thanks and apologies. Incidentally, I don't seem to have a Release Notes option in the Main Menu in the versions I have. Regards, Mike From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 22:54:46 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id WAA32355 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 22:54:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id WAA29262; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 22:54:40 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id WAA27707; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 22:54:02 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id WAA86932 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 22:52:05 -0700 Received: from acheron.middleboro.ma.us (p0.ts1.wareh.MA.tiac.com [198.70.40.33]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id WAA12198 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 22:52:03 -0700 Received: (from mason@localhost) by acheron.middleboro.ma.us (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA29867; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 01:51:52 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <19980912015152.X351@acheron.middleboro.ma.us> Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 01:51:52 -0400 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Mason Loring Bliss To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: mailbox vulnerable In-Reply-To: ; from Aaron S. Hawley on Wed, Sep 09, 1998 at 05:19:26PM -0400 References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-To: "Aaron S. Hawley" , Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Wed, Sep 09, 1998 at 05:19:26PM -0400, Aaron S. Hawley wrote: > i get the mailbox vulnerable mesage even though i've set my mail directory > to 1777 as instructed. Mode 1777 is inherently vulnerable. It allows unscrupulous users to create a mailbox in your name, if you use a client that removes your mailbox when it empties it out, or if the unscrupulous user does it right after your account has been set up. In either case, they'd then be able to set the permissions on the mailbox such that it's world-readable. A far more secure method is to have your mail directory be mode 0775, group mail, and have your mail clients mode 2755, group mail. This prohibits users from creating files in your mail directory without using their mail client to do it. (Of course, if the mail client doesn't take care with what it does, mail can still be abused. Probably the only *really* safe method is delivery straight to users' home directories.) -- Mason Loring Bliss..mason@acheron.middleboro.ma.us..acheron.dyn.ml.org/mason "In the drowsy dark cave of the mind dreams build their nest with fragments dropped from day's caravan."--Rabindranath Tagore..awake ? sleep : dream; From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 23:01:04 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id XAA01120 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 23:01:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id XAA15558; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 23:00:56 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id XAA07965; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 23:00:28 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id WAA25380 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 22:58:50 -0700 Received: from smtpgate.uvm.edu (smtpgate.uvm.edu [132.198.101.121]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id WAA10714 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 22:58:50 -0700 Received: from [132.198.236.52] (132.198.236.52) by smtpgate.uvm.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1a) with SMTP id <0.E2358610@smtpgate.uvm.edu>; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 1:58:49 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 01:58:45 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Aaron S. Hawley" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: mailbox vulnerable In-Reply-To: <19980912015152.X351@acheron.middleboro.ma.us> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Mason Loring Bliss X-Cc: pine-info@u.washington.edu X-X-Sender: ashawley@zoo.uvm.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN so how do i do this. i've set my mail directory to 0775, but how do i set my mail client mode? On Sat, 12 Sep 1998, Mason Loring Bliss wrote: > On Wed, Sep 09, 1998 at 05:19:26PM -0400, Aaron S. Hawley wrote: > > > i get the mailbox vulnerable mesage even though i've set my mail directory > > to 1777 as instructed. > > Mode 1777 is inherently vulnerable. It allows unscrupulous users to create > a mailbox in your name, if you use a client that removes your mailbox when > it empties it out, or if the unscrupulous user does it right after your > account has been set up. In either case, they'd then be able to set the > permissions on the mailbox such that it's world-readable. > > A far more secure method is to have your mail directory be mode 0775, group > mail, and have your mail clients mode 2755, group mail. This prohibits > users from creating files in your mail directory without using their mail > client to do it. (Of course, if the mail client doesn't take care with what > it does, mail can still be abused. Probably the only *really* safe method > is delivery straight to users' home directories.) > > -- > Mason Loring Bliss..mason@acheron.middleboro.ma.us..acheron.dyn.ml.org/mason > "In the drowsy dark cave of the mind dreams build their nest with fragments > dropped from day's caravan."--Rabindranath Tagore..awake ? sleep : dream; > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 02:21:33 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id CAA09530 for ; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 02:21:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id CAA17780; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 02:21:26 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id CAA11279; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 02:19:26 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id CAA40244 for ; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 02:17:27 -0700 Received: from ady.warpnet.ro (ady.warpnet.ro [193.230.201.1]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id CAA17977 for ; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 02:17:04 -0700 Received: from localhost (ady@localhost) by ady.warpnet.ro (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA15789; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 12:16:37 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ady@warpnet.ro) Message-Id: Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 12:16:37 +0300 (EEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Adrian Penisoara To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: [FreeBSD port of Pine 4.03] New mail check bug ? / testers needed (fwd) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Nathan Stratton X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: ady@ady.warpnet.ro X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi, On Fri, 11 Sep 1998, Nathan Stratton wrote: > > I'm trying to finish the FreeBSD port for Pine 4.03 but I'm stuck into > > what it appears to be a bug in Pine when checking for new mail: > > After I'm starting Pine (user root) I compose a message to myself > > and then I hit "I" and down arrow to check for new mail; in that moment > > Why is a FreeBSD port needed? I run FreeBSD and I just used generic unix > and it compiled fine. Well, it might have compiled fine, it may even run fine, but not everything in the "generic unix" port is optimised for the FreeBSD platform... The {Free/Open}BSD port collection assures that every package (covered in the port collection) will be installed with suitable defaults and/or options for the {Free/Open}BSD platform. For example: while the Pine sources use "/usr/local/lib/" for system-wide configuration files, FreeBSD (port) uses ${PREFIX}/etc/ for them (with ${PREFIX} beeing "/usr/local" by default); furthermore, the port assures the correct install procedure for the "libpico.so.*" shared library (previous versions of Pine) and the resulting executables in the suitable directories. The patches provided with the port try to adapt thes sources for the FreeBSD environment (enabling F_TERMCAP_WINS, managing "/var/mail/..." locks, etc.). And last, but not least, the port should make the life easier for the average user -- it requires just an "make install" to do everything (from fetching the sources 'till installing & registering the package installation)... > > Nathan Stratton Telecom & ISP Consulting > www.robotics.net nathan@robotics.net > -- > "No king is saved by the size of his army; no warrior escapes by > his great strength." - Psalm 33:16 > Hoping that I made myself clear, Ady (@freebsd.ady.ro) [current maintainer for pine & imap-uw FreeBSD ports] From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 07:17:57 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA14366 for ; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 07:17:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id HAA21017; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 07:17:52 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id HAA14142; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 07:17:03 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id HAA71486 for ; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 07:14:26 -0700 Received: from ady.warpnet.ro (ady.warpnet.ro [193.230.201.1]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id HAA26770 for ; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 07:14:14 -0700 Received: from localhost (ady@localhost) by ady.warpnet.ro (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA17292; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 17:14:29 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ady@warpnet.ro) Message-Id: Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 17:14:29 +0300 (EEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Adrian Penisoara To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: [FreeBSD port of Pine 4.03] Found the culprit ! In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum , FreeBSD ports X-Sender: ady@ady.warpnet.ro X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi again, On Fri, 11 Sep 1998, Adrian Penisoara wrote: > After I'm starting Pine (user root) I compose a message to myself > and then I hit "I" and down arrow to check for new mail; in that moment > Pine exits with: > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > Problem detected: "Received abort signal". > Pine Exiting. > Abort trap (core dumped) > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > I found what causes this: enabling the "quell-folder-internal-msg" feature (F_QUELL_INTERNAL_MSG for the programmers) !! Could someone please test this: enable "quell-folder-internal-msg", empty your mailbox (must be zero-legth, run "echo -n >/var/mail/[USER]" to make sure) then perform the above test ? Thanks, Ady (@freebsd.ady.ro) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 07:45:19 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA14329 for ; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 07:45:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id HAA21303; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 07:45:13 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id HAA03864; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 07:44:37 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id HAA16564 for ; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 07:43:22 -0700 Received: from taxa.psyc.missouri.edu (taxa.psyc.missouri.edu [128.206.45.83]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id HAA27859 for ; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 07:43:21 -0700 Received: from localhost by taxa.psyc.missouri.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id JAA00364; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 09:43:08 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 09:43:08 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Mike Miller To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: odd behavior of pipe command (truly) In-Reply-To: <199809120748.AAA29155@lists3.u.washington.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I'm running Solaris 2.6 with pine 4.02 binary for Solaris 2.5 downloaded from the pine ftp site. My apologies if this bug was fixed in 4.03. I'm not sure if the earlier versions of pine did this. When I run the pipe command, pine sources my .cshrc file. It must have to create it's own shell, eh? The problem is that pine puts any output (errors, etc.) from this source command in the viewing window. For me, this causes pine to generate the following text (between but not including the lines) which it places on the viewing window just before the piped text. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Must be attached to terminal for 'am I' option Must be attached to terminal for 'am I' option My best guess at your address and display is :0.0 If this is wrong, X-server aliases will not work for you during this session until you change $display using the set command. If a program gives you an error, precede the program name with a '\' as in \pico or \pine or \telnet. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- So I think the bug causes output of "source .cshrc" to be piped to the viewing window ahead of the output from the requested pipe operation. The same thing happens when I click on a URL to open a netscape window, but the text only appears for a second while the netscape window opens, then the e-mail message reappears without the extra text. I can explain the causes of the lines of text shown above. First, I have a line that tries to determine where I'm logged in from. It uses "who am i". Apparently, that causes the "Must be attached to terminal" error messages. The second bunch of text is caused by a series of echo commands. P.S. Offtrack: Is there a better way for my Solaris box to get the domain name of a user than who am i | awk '{print $6}' | tr -d '()' It seems to work, but there has to be a better way! Isn't there a single command for this? Regards, Mike Michael B. Miller, M.S., Ph.D., M.P.E. Department of Psychology 210 McAlester Hall University of Missouri--Columbia Columbia, MO 65211 Phone: (573) 882-5671 Fax: (573) 882-7710 e-mail: mbmiller@taxa.psyc.missouri.edu web: http://taxa.psyc.missouri.edu/~mbmiller/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 08:25:45 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA14663 for ; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 08:25:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id IAA05596; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 08:25:40 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id IAA20554; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 08:24:42 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id IAA52530 for ; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 08:23:11 -0700 Received: from mailhost2.u.washington.edu (mailhost2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.2]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id IAA29494 for ; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 08:23:10 -0700 Received: from D-140-142-189-192.dhcp.washington.edu (D-140-142-189-192.dhcp.washington.edu [140.142.189.192]) by mailhost2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id IAA07185; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 08:23:07 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 08:24:01 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Terry Gray To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: mailbox vulnerable In-Reply-To: <19980912015152.X351@acheron.middleboro.ma.us> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Mason Loring Bliss X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: gray@shivams.cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN This is VERY BAD ADVICE. The vulnerability you are concerned about with mode 1777 goes away if you use mail tools that don't remove the INBOX (thousands of sites use this strategy successfully) and the vulnerabilities of running Pine as a privileged program are ENORMOUS... it was never designed to be run with privileges. -teg On Sat, 12 Sep 1998, Mason Loring Bliss wrote: > On Wed, Sep 09, 1998 at 05:19:26PM -0400, Aaron S. Hawley wrote: > > > i get the mailbox vulnerable mesage even though i've set my mail directory > > to 1777 as instructed. > > Mode 1777 is inherently vulnerable. It allows unscrupulous users to create > a mailbox in your name, if you use a client that removes your mailbox when > it empties it out, or if the unscrupulous user does it right after your > account has been set up. In either case, they'd then be able to set the > permissions on the mailbox such that it's world-readable. > > A far more secure method is to have your mail directory be mode 0775, group > mail, and have your mail clients mode 2755, group mail. This prohibits > users from creating files in your mail directory without using their mail > client to do it. (Of course, if the mail client doesn't take care with what > it does, mail can still be abused. Probably the only *really* safe method > is delivery straight to users' home directories.) > > -- > Mason Loring Bliss..mason@acheron.middleboro.ma.us..acheron.dyn.ml.org/mason > "In the drowsy dark cave of the mind dreams build their nest with fragments > dropped from day's caravan."--Rabindranath Tagore..awake ? sleep : dream; > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 08:48:08 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA14861 for ; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 08:48:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id IAA05829; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 08:48:03 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id IAA05697; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 08:47:31 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id IAA10030 for ; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 08:46:13 -0700 Received: from acheron.middleboro.ma.us (p0.ts1.wareh.MA.tiac.com [198.70.40.33]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id IAA30476 for ; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 08:46:11 -0700 Received: (from mason@localhost) by acheron.middleboro.ma.us (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA17240; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 11:45:58 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <19980912114557.B12108@acheron.middleboro.ma.us> Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 11:45:57 -0400 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Mason Loring Bliss To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: mailbox vulnerable In-Reply-To: ; from Terry Gray on Sat, Sep 12, 1998 at 08:24:01AM -0700 References: <19980912015152.X351@acheron.middleboro.ma.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-To: Terry Gray X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Sat, Sep 12, 1998 at 08:24:01AM -0700, Terry Gray wrote: > This is VERY BAD ADVICE. The vulnerability you are concerned about with > mode 1777 goes away if you use mail tools that don't remove the INBOX > (thousands of sites use this strategy successfully) and the > vulnerabilities of running Pine as a privileged program are ENORMOUS... it > was never designed to be run with privileges. The worst case is that the user could use Pine to create a file in /var/mail. Sticky bits alone on /var/mail are totally insufficient. Also, note that the group "mail" will exist only to own /var/mail. It exists for no other reason, and grants no privilige other than the ability to write to files in /var/mail. At that, files are created with fairly minimal permissions, so Pine running SGID mail can't access any files other than those it has created and those already accessible under the user's standard permissions. Running Pine as SUID root would be silly, but I don't see ENORMOUS problems running it SGID mail. I see *no* problems with it, in fact, that aren't already a subset of the ENORMOUS number of problems running with the sticky bit set on /var/mail, mode 1777. -- Mason Loring Bliss..mason@acheron.middleboro.ma.us..acheron.dyn.ml.org/mason "In the drowsy dark cave of the mind dreams build their nest with fragments dropped from day's caravan."--Rabindranath Tagore..awake ? sleep : dream; From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 08:55:21 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA08899 for ; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 08:55:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id IAA22024; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 08:55:15 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id IAA05117; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 08:54:41 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id IAA44242 for ; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 08:53:26 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id IAA31702 for ; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 08:53:26 -0700 Received: from taxa.psyc.missouri.edu (taxa.psyc.missouri.edu [128.206.45.83]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id IAA05875 for ; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 08:53:24 -0700 Received: from localhost by taxa.psyc.missouri.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA00562; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 10:53:11 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 10:53:11 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Mike Miller To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: disabling suspend MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: PINE-INFO list X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I see that pine has an option to enable suspend. I generally like to have suspend enabled (so I set it that way in .pinerc), but when I launch pine in its own X window, accidentally hitting suspend (^Z) will cause a problem that I don't know how to fix (I get hung in the xterm window and fg doesn't work). I also see that pine has a -z command line option that enables suspend. Is there any type of command line argument that will *disable* suspend. Here's the alias I'm using: alias pine 'xterm -n Pine -T Pine -e pine \!* &' Is there a better way?? TIA, Mike Michael B. Miller, M.S., Ph.D., M.P.E. Department of Psychology 210 McAlester Hall University of Missouri--Columbia Columbia, MO 65211 Phone: (573) 882-5671 Fax: (573) 882-7710 e-mail: mbmiller@taxa.psyc.missouri.edu web: http://taxa.psyc.missouri.edu/~mbmiller/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 10:01:11 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA15428 for ; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 10:01:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id KAA06656; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 10:01:05 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id KAA17351; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 10:00:28 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id JAA86932 for ; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 09:58:53 -0700 Received: from news.mtu.edu (root@news.mtu.edu [141.219.70.11]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id JAA12313 for ; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 09:58:52 -0700 Received: from mtu.edu (root@mtu.edu [141.219.70.1]) by news.mtu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA29484; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 12:58:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sosue.me.mtu.edu (sosue.me.mtu.edu [141.219.26.133]) by mtu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA05926; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 12:58:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from doeray.me.mtu.edu (doeray.me.mtu.edu [141.219.26.131]) by sosue.me.mtu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/mturelay-1.2) with SMTP id MAA25347; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 12:59:44 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 12:58:21 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Edan Idzerda To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: disabling suspend In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Mike Miller X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: edan@doeray.me.mtu.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Sat, 12 Sep 1998, Mike Miller wrote: > I see that pine has an option to enable suspend. I generally like to have > suspend enabled (so I set it that way in .pinerc), but when I launch pine > in its own X window, accidentally hitting suspend (^Z) will cause a > problem that I don't know how to fix (I get hung in the xterm window and > fg doesn't work). Two quick ideas: 1) alias pine to 'pine -z' in your shell, then start without in your xterm 2) start pine with an alternate .pinerc that doesn't have suspension enabled Curiously, when vi is started in the same method, it won't allow you to suspend it. I wonder if there is a difference in the environment that would allow Pine to recognize that "now is a bad time to suspend." To narrow it down more, if you start pine from a shell that doesn't support job control, like sh, pine will still suspend itself, where vi won't. This is geekily interesting; I'll have to look at it some more ;) - edan From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 10:25:51 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA23466 for ; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 10:25:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id KAA23049; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 10:25:46 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id KAA23078; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 10:24:57 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id KAA59758 for ; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 10:23:44 -0700 Received: from mailhost2.u.washington.edu (mailhost2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.2]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id KAA03288 for ; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 10:23:44 -0700 Received: from D-140-142-189-192.dhcp.washington.edu (D-140-142-189-192.dhcp.washington.edu [140.142.189.192]) by mailhost2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id KAA08341; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 10:23:38 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 10:24:32 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Terry Gray To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: disabling suspend In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Edan Idzerda X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: gray@shivams.cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Note also that: o you can turn features on or off from the command line, e.g. pine -feature-list=no-enable-suspend o there is a feature to suspend via creating a subshell -teg On Sat, 12 Sep 1998, Edan Idzerda wrote: > > > On Sat, 12 Sep 1998, Mike Miller wrote: > > > I see that pine has an option to enable suspend. I generally like to have > > suspend enabled (so I set it that way in .pinerc), but when I launch pine > > in its own X window, accidentally hitting suspend (^Z) will cause a > > problem that I don't know how to fix (I get hung in the xterm window and > > fg doesn't work). > > Two quick ideas: > > 1) alias pine to 'pine -z' in your shell, then start without > in your xterm > > 2) start pine with an alternate .pinerc that doesn't > have suspension enabled > > Curiously, when vi is started in the same method, it won't allow > you to suspend it. I wonder if there is a difference in the environment > that would allow Pine to recognize that "now is a bad time to suspend." > > To narrow it down more, if you start pine from a shell that doesn't > support job control, like sh, pine will still suspend itself, where > vi won't. This is geekily interesting; I'll have to look at it > some more ;) > > - edan > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 11:07:08 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA15566 for ; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 11:07:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id LAA23537; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 11:07:03 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id LAA07904; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 11:06:05 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id LAA44272 for ; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 11:04:39 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id LAA04129 for ; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 11:04:38 -0700 Received: from taxa.psyc.missouri.edu (taxa.psyc.missouri.edu [128.206.45.83]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id LAA07357 for ; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 11:04:36 -0700 Received: from localhost by taxa.psyc.missouri.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id NAA01012; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 13:04:22 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 13:04:22 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Mike Miller To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: disabling suspend In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: PINE-INFO list X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Responding to myself here. There is a very nice feature of Pine that I wasn't aware of until now that allows the user to suspend to a special "inferior shell". It's great when pine is launched from 'xterm -e' because it prevents crashes with ^Z. Another feature of pine that I didn't know about is this command line argument: -